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Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1350 on: June 11, 2019, 07:14:59 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Offline frank black

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1351 on: June 11, 2019, 07:34:15 AM »
Seeing all the rumours and prices banded around for different players, it appears we are shopping at the value end of the market. Crikey it’s crazy, but expected I suppose with all the TV money etc

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1352 on: June 11, 2019, 07:57:01 AM »
This is what I hate about the premier league, stupid transfer fees and the wages that are paid to a lot of very average footballers, it is madness.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1353 on: June 11, 2019, 08:32:04 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1354 on: June 11, 2019, 08:46:38 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy
It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1355 on: June 11, 2019, 08:52:17 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy
It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

Agreed, I'd have Heaton or Pope in a heartbeat over Butland.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1356 on: June 11, 2019, 08:54:41 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy
It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

Etheridge is almost 4 years older than Jack, Burnley don't want to sell Pope and Heaton is much older. Id rather spend an extra £8m on Jack than £10m on Etheridge who wont have re-sale value

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1357 on: June 11, 2019, 09:14:59 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy
It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

The point being the person who should be making that call for Dean is Neil Cutler....if he believes Butland or Etheridge or Uncle Tom Cobleigh are better than what we have then Dean / Sisu / Purslow look at whether the deals are doable within budget. 

That spine of the team is going to be fundamental to our chances this season so it’s right to go all in on the one that the coaching staff want.

Same will apply for centre halves & centre forward

Wingers are decoration hence easier to sign & probably why we have already managed to secure two :-)

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1358 on: June 11, 2019, 09:41:58 AM »
Paying 20 mill for a 26 year old, who will be with us for potentially 10 years is surely a good investment? Prices are ludicrous anyway. 10 mill for a 29 years old or 20 for a 26 year old?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1359 on: June 11, 2019, 09:50:43 AM »
Butland is 6ft 5 and a big imposing fucker from what I recall, and a very good keeper when I have seen him, but £25 million just seems a lot when we have so much else to do in the team.

This is the point here.

Im very sure Purslow, Suso and Deano are aware what needs to be done. If they see that spending circa £18m on Butland is part of the plan then i'm dam sure its not having a detrimental impact on the rest of our budget for their plans.
Butland could be our number one for the next 6 years easily so £18m-£23m isnt that crazy
It is if you can buy Etheridge, Pope or Heaton for less: equally as good, if not better.
Butland would have gone for bigger money previously if people really rated him. I'm no expert on keepers, but others have sidestepped him.
Ditto, Joe Hart.

Agreed, I'd have Heaton or Pope in a heartbeat over Butland.

Are they available? I'd read that they wanted to keep Pope, and Heaton is their club captain which suggests they'd rather keep hold of him as well.

Heaton is also 33, so we'd be paying big wages for an aging player again. Maybe we could really go retro and offer him a 5 year contract like we gave Shay Given at a similar age.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1360 on: June 11, 2019, 10:35:50 AM »
I was actually excited about the prospect of us signing Heaton when we were linked with him in January, and felt disappointed that apparently it was all a ruse whilst we signed Kalinic. Doesn't look like DS has been to impressed with Kalinic if the rumours are correct that we are after yet another keeper.

Offline VinnieChase84

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1361 on: June 11, 2019, 10:49:20 AM »
I was actually excited about the prospect of us signing Heaton when we were linked with him in January, and felt disappointed that apparently it was all a ruse whilst we signed Kalinic. Doesn't look like DS has been to impressed with Kalinic if the rumours are correct that we are after yet another keeper.

Smith didn't sign Kalinic. It was agreed months earlier under Bruce and activated 1/1/19 automatically

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1362 on: June 11, 2019, 10:55:37 AM »
I was actually excited about the prospect of us signing Heaton when we were linked with him in January, and felt disappointed that apparently it was all a ruse whilst we signed Kalinic. Doesn't look like DS has been to impressed with Kalinic if the rumours are correct that we are after yet another keeper.

Smith didn't sign Kalinic. It was agreed months earlier under Bruce and activated 1/1/19 automatically

I knew we'd been looking at him previously but this is the first I've heard of such an arrangement. Source?

Offline AllanW

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1363 on: June 11, 2019, 11:29:14 AM »
Unless BOTH Kalinic and Nyland have let Smith know that they want to get away I do not understand why we would jeopardise team cohesion by trying to sign an expensive 'keeper ... even if he's worth it. If they have then the current speculation and links to Etheridge and Butland are understandable.

If we end up with Steer and Butland or Etheridge in combination that's fine by me PROVIDED we recoup much of the incoming transfer fee by selling the other 2. Otherwise we're taking too much out of the transfer kitty on one position. We might sell those 2 for £8m to £9m in total which means Butland is too expensive at £30m IMO even if you're convinced of his quality (which I'm not).

Etheridge at ~ £10m suits me if we have to make any change at all, that is.

Offline frank black

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #1364 on: June 11, 2019, 11:31:32 AM »
Plus Small Heath get 20% of any sell on with Butland (apparently).

 


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