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Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #855 on: June 03, 2019, 03:08:49 AM »
Can't believe that Taylor's name has not yet been mentioned. Surely we cannot envisage him in the premiership?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #856 on: June 03, 2019, 03:38:54 AM »
No but that applies to a number of our players, nearly all of them are untested in the Premiership and to me it was clear that a majority of them had found their level in the Championship. I would rather look abroad for new talent rather than buy players from the championship that have had a good season.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #857 on: June 03, 2019, 07:36:45 AM »
We shouldn't have got rid of him and we shouldn't have him back.

In a nutshell.

He's been gone for a long time now so he would have probably left at some point anyway but from memory, he wanted to move on anyway for regular first team football.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #858 on: June 03, 2019, 07:46:35 AM »
That's correct but he should have had first team football here. Instead we went with Zat Knight and Curtis Davies.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #859 on: June 03, 2019, 09:15:51 AM »
That's correct but he should have had first team football here. Instead we went with Zat Knight and Curtis Davies.

And there were people on here defending that decision, too.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #860 on: June 03, 2019, 11:00:16 AM »
That's correct but he should have had first team football here. Instead we went with Zat Knight and Curtis Davies.

And there were people on here defending that decision, too.

Amazing what winning a few games can do, manager can do wrong and even if he makes an obvious wrong decision it still gets blindly supported by a fair few.

We sold Cahill for 5m and signed Knight and Davies for a combined 15min 2007-08. We somehow got our money back for Knight (Bolton must've felt bad for us getting GC at knock down price) but he left in 2009 and by then Curtis Davies was well out of favour so our defensive replacements for Cahill were gone barely 18 months after he left.

We then signed Dunne and Collins for 10m combined and they played very well first season but again same problems not long after.

Hopefully Deano won't make a cock up on that scale but shows how badly wrong we could get things even in seasons when we were finishing 6th and it badly hurt us in the long run.

In the meantime Cahill won 61 caps for England and won at Chelsea two league titles, a CL, a europa league, a league cup and two FA cups to give you an idea of what we lost.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #861 on: June 03, 2019, 11:29:22 AM »
If you look at the entire defence under Mon he spent something like £50m we got about £8m on them. Losing money on players like that, when they barely improve on what you had, is completely unsustainable.

Lerner had problems later but in those 4 years he gave Mon everything he needed for the top 4 and it was completely wasted

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #862 on: June 03, 2019, 12:29:29 PM »
The rumoured Jota deal seems to have gone quiet?

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #863 on: June 03, 2019, 12:30:43 PM »
I remember the reasoning being that Cahill was a bring the ball out of defence style defender whereas MON preferred the 'whack it in to row z' type

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #864 on: June 03, 2019, 12:32:01 PM »
If you look at the entire defence under Mon he spent something like £50m we got about £8m on them. Losing money on players like that, when they barely improve on what you had, is completely unsustainable.

Lerner had problems later but in those 4 years he gave Mon everything he needed for the top 4 and it was completely wasted

Lerner threw money in but never got the concept of protecting the assets we bought with it.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #865 on: June 03, 2019, 12:34:54 PM »
I remember the reasoning being that Cahill was a bring the ball out of defence style defender whereas MON preferred the 'whack it in to row z' type

What a revealing argument that was.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #866 on: June 03, 2019, 01:03:00 PM »
... whereas MON preferred the 'whack it in to row z' type
He certainly got that with Marlon F Harewood.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #867 on: June 03, 2019, 01:28:52 PM »
The rumoured Jota deal seems to have gone quiet?


Tbh, it seemed a bit odd that when we've got bazillions to spend, our first port of call was the little local shop round the corner. I'm not saying he couldn't be a decent signing, but I'm hoping we'll be a bit more exotic in our spending.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #868 on: June 03, 2019, 01:49:22 PM »
Can't believe that Taylor's name has not yet been mentioned. Surely we cannot envisage him in the premiership?

He'll be fine as competition, he played a lot in the good run at the end of the season, he's played in the PL before, he's not too old and he is an international. Despite all that though we should be looking to buy a better option as there is plenty of room for improvement at left back with us stepping up a division.

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Re: Summer transfer, gossip, speculation thread
« Reply #869 on: June 03, 2019, 01:51:05 PM »
Can't believe that Taylor's name has not yet been mentioned. Surely we cannot envisage him in the premiership?

He'll be fine as competition, he played a lot in the good run at the end of the season, he's played in the PL before, he's not too old and he is an international. Despite all that though we should be looking to buy a better option as there is plenty of room for improvement at left back with us stepping up a division.
Attacking full backs are worth their weight in gold these days.  Taylor is not an attacking full back.

 


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