Has it gone too far?

[andrew08]

It’s the Brummie thing they go on about which really gets under their skin as well. The winning goals keep being scored by our homegrown Brummies.

It won’t change and they’ve just ramped it up a notch.

Personally I hadn’t been since the Enkleman game until yesterday because of their idiots, and nothing has really changed since then. I can’t see me going again.

[hilts_coolerking]

If your club hasn't got a pot to piss in, there's no realistic prospect of promotion any time soon and the chance of silverware virtually nil then we're all they've got.  And when we get promoted they won't even have that.  But it's not all one way: we do go on about them a lot.  The Blues thread in Other Football must be one of the longest threads on this website; I know it's 10 years old but still.

[LeeB]

Us being where we are is what they dreamed of for decades, but all it has done is exploded more of their myths, our fans have still turned out in huge numbers despite our demise.

It fucking kills them.

[pauliewalnuts]

Although having said that, their forum has match threads. For our matches.

[PeterWithesShin]

They had a match thread for one of our games not too long ago that had more comments than the previous match thread for their own game had.

[LeeB]

That forum is a fair reflection of their club as a whole, as it's a poorly managed, disorganised rabble.

[Toronto Villa]

Although having said that, their forum has match threads. For our matches.

And there you have it. You could have posted that right after your initial post and saved yourself the trouble of finding an answer to your question.

[dave.woodhall]

We're not really helping ourselves by talking about a forum that's best ignored.

[Somniloquism]

If your club hasn't got a pot to piss in, there's no realistic prospect of promotion any time soon and the chance of silverware virtually nil then we're all they've got.  And when we get promoted they won't even have that.  But it's not all one way: we do go on about them a lot.  The Blues thread in Other Football must be one of the longest threads on this website; I know it's 10 years old but still.

But we do have to talk about them, mainly because as the thread states, they are the gift that keeps on giving and is probably the second oldest active thread on the board. However I suspect that adding all the "other games" ones together would probably surpass it and I'm actually proud the biggest thread I'm aware of sounds like it should be about them but isn't. "Little things that annoy you"  is definitely about several hundred larger.

[SoccerHQ]

Think it's getting as bad as 02/03 now.

Few years after in the prem things did calm down a bit.

Think them going now nearly a decade without beating us is really getting them frothing at the mouth although obviously not something I want changing anytime soon.

What year was the league cup kick-off? 2010?

That too was pretty fucking awful. Worse than 02/03. I remember we were working with a Spanish company on a project at the time, and a guy I dealt with there was well into his football, so most days we'd have a football related chat.

Trying to explain that to him was difficult.

Yeah an anamoly game in that they actually beat us (I'd have traded that for about 5 of our victories against them since given they went on to win the cup) and also worse for the police in that it had to kick off in the evening. Oh and we also had a 5k allocation.

All adds more to hostile atmosphere than a Sunday lunchtime game should.

[hilts_coolerking]

There's a piece on this in the Graun which mentions drug use at matches.  Anyone know if this is a thing?

"A minor point here, but it is perhaps worth noting the widespread use of recreational drugs at football. There are certain areas within certain grounds where the half-time toilets have an air of Freddie Mercury powder-party debauchery, just without the sense of glamour. Throw several thousand impressionable young men together, ramp up the ambient levels of rage; and yes, people are likely to start pushing the boundaries, busting in through the fourth wall, losing their sense of scale."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/mar/11/football-assault-aston-villa-jack-grealish

[TopDeck113]

A question to which I genuinely don't know the answer: are there any other towns or cities (or places with close geographical proximity) where there are two clubs with such a discrepancy of historical success?   If so, is there also a similar toxic resentment from the poor relations towards their more successful neighbour?

I'm aware the Portsmouth/Southampton animosity has its roots in a dock strike, but even then I'm not sure in manages to generate the sheer venom of (some) Blues fans towards us.

[boutrosboutrosgnarly]

That place is consumed with hatred for the Villa from the very top to the very bottom and no-one connected with that club wants it any other way.So no they won't change whatever happens because if they lose that they have nothing.And they know it.

[BoVillan esq]

It’s killed them also that even during our recent downturn in luck and fortunes they still can’t beat us. And what put them over the edge is even when it was finally going to happen, when we were seemingly going under, we were sold to two legitimately filthy rich blokes. And you know if we get promoted and these two start lashing out hundreds of millions in transfers and wages all of this will get worse.

Tough!!

[PeterWithesShin]

There's a piece on this in the Graun which mentions drug use at matches.  Anyone know if this is a thing?

"A minor point here, but it is perhaps worth noting the widespread use of recreational drugs at football. There are certain areas within certain grounds where the half-time toilets have an air of Freddie Mercury powder-party debauchery, just without the sense of glamour. Throw several thousand impressionable young men together, ramp up the ambient levels of rage; and yes, people are likely to start pushing the boundaries, busting in through the fourth wall, losing their sense of scale."

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2019/mar/11/football-assault-aston-villa-jack-grealish

It seems to be used more than when I was younger, it's certainly used more openly than back then. I even know some who go to non league football and take it.