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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3450 on: August 17, 2025, 09:53:24 PM »
Well yeah but the point only has any relevance if Newcastle rocked up and said, “Villa are you prepared to sell Buendia or Ramsey? We don’t care which”.

My intial point was that the teams weaker now because we will have to probably  use buendia who is not as good as ramsey.

We are certainly  at this moment looking weaker not just than last season but even before that when we had diaby and luiz. That team 2 years ago was stronger than this one.

We desperately  need players if we have any hope of the challenging the top 5.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3451 on: August 17, 2025, 09:56:28 PM »
You’re right, Asensio is better than both.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3452 on: August 17, 2025, 10:03:58 PM »
John McGinn:

Always humble, respectful and willing to learn. It’s been a privilege to share the dressing room with you and enjoy some special moments together on the pitch. A sad day losing a top player and person and one of our own but it seems to be the way football is set up these days! 💜
Summed up well , it seems to be the way , the corrupt way .

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3453 on: August 17, 2025, 10:12:07 PM »
Well yeah but the point only has any relevance if Newcastle rocked up and said, “Villa are you prepared to sell Buendia or Ramsey? We don’t care which”.

My intial point was that the teams weaker now because we will have to probably  use buendia who is not as good as ramsey.

We are certainly  at this moment looking weaker not just than last season but even before that when we had diaby and luiz. That team 2 years ago was stronger than this one.

We desperately  need players if we have any hope of the challenging the top 5.

I don't know much about finances, but is the core of the issue not that, under the current/new/whatever regulations, we couldn't now afford to have the team that we had two years ago?

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3454 on: August 17, 2025, 10:14:43 PM »
Hands up if anyone fully understands PSR etc etc and can explain it all simply as I don't have a clue.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3455 on: August 17, 2025, 10:23:00 PM »
Hands up if anyone fully understands PSR etc etc and can explain it all simply as I don't have a clue.

Jewish conspiracy *taps nose*.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3456 on: August 17, 2025, 10:37:54 PM »
Some lovely comments on JJ's Insta from Villa players, Ty and Ginny especially. Football fucks me off more than ever, currently.

I think this one stings more than Grealish as after the nation fell for him at Euro 2021, we were clearly going to struggle to keep him and Citeh were light years ahead of us.

In 2025 Villa and Newcastle are neck and neck though. I wonder if we'd manage to get rid of Bailey and Dendoncker earlier in the summer, could we have done a deal for Ramsey.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3457 on: August 17, 2025, 10:38:02 PM »
In very simple terms.

Psr - domestic league.  You cannot lose more than £105m per season on a rolling three year period.  We did. Well we would’ve done had we not added to our revenue by selling the women’s team.

SCR - Europe.  No team is allowed to have a greater than 70 percent spent on wages against total turnover.  Ours at one stage was over 90 percent.

Hence why this year we have had to focus on bringing the wage bill down to comply with SCR.  But the Ramsey sale gives us more opportunity albeit limited to bring a couple in.

Does that help?

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3458 on: August 17, 2025, 10:38:57 PM »
It's not wages alone, it's also agent fees and amortised transfer costs.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3459 on: August 17, 2025, 10:39:48 PM »
I know mate I was putting it in very simple terms. 

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3460 on: August 17, 2025, 10:45:04 PM »
In very simple terms.

Psr - domestic league.  You cannot lose more than £105m per season on a rolling three year period.  We did. Well we would’ve done had we not added to our revenue by selling the women’s team.

SCR - Europe.  No team is allowed to have a greater than 70 percent spent on wages against total turnover.  Ours at one stage was over 90 percent.

Hence why this year we have had to focus on bringing the wage bill down to comply with SCR.  But the Ramsey sale gives us more opportunity albeit limited to bring a couple in.

Does that help?
SCR - loses up to 60 million euros. PSR ends next season, Premier League using SCR all round.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2025, 10:54:44 PM by Tuscans »

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3461 on: August 17, 2025, 10:52:25 PM »
In very simple terms.

Psr - domestic league.  You cannot lose more than £105m per season on a rolling three year period.  We did. Well we would’ve done had we not added to our revenue by selling the women’s team.

SCR - Europe.  No team is allowed to have a greater than 70 percent spent on wages against total turnover.  Ours at one stage was over 90 percent.

Hence why this year we have had to focus on bringing the wage bill down to comply with SCR.  But the Ramsey sale gives us more opportunity albeit limited to bring a couple in.

Does that help?

It does. Cheers kippax

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3462 on: August 17, 2025, 10:53:07 PM »
Thank you.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3463 on: August 17, 2025, 10:54:33 PM »
It's not wages alone, it's also agent fees and amortised transfer costs.

How does that impact what KV has explained?

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Re: Jacob Ramsey - Gone
« Reply #3464 on: August 17, 2025, 11:00:34 PM »
It's not wages alone, it's also agent fees and amortised transfer costs.

How does that impact what KV has explained?

With Guessand for example, assuming he cost £23m, he's on £60k per week and we paid his agent half a million it would be something like:

5 year contract amortised at £4.6m per annum
Wages annualised to £3.1m
Agent fees of £500k

That's all worth £8.2m against our overall ceiling of £192m permitted spend for this year (next it will be a lot higher as we probably pulled in way over £300m with CL prize money and ticketing).

With JJ and Donk going, transfer fees are irrelevant, but we do immediately scrub £8.3m in their annualised wages from the books, so we've reduced costs by £100k based on those 3 deals.

 


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