Jacob Ramsey

[LeonW]

We haven’t really been stung on the sales front. Targett, Grealish, Ings, Duran, Diaby, Luiz; I think we’ve won on all fronts and been smart. But this one could be different.

Not sure about that at all. No matter what we sell players for, it's not worth all that much if the funds aren't reinvested to make the team better.

Grealish - replaced by Ings, Bailey and Buendia. Frankly a disaster that cost Deano his job, still trying to get rid of two of the three of them.
Luiz - yes Tielemans did a great job replacing his influence as our playmaker last season but Luiz was replaced in the squad by Onana, I'll be kind and say a dud thus far.
Ings, yes and credit to Emery there. Hard decision but Watkins thrived immediately without him and Ings was done.
Duran - big profit made on him but it's all relative. He was a ready made Watkins replacement and we are now more reliant on Ollie than ever.
Diaby - maybe Malen will provide that direct pace option he brought, Rogers has stepped into the breach with more potential to be fair.
Targett - was it Digne who replaced him? Fine I guess, cheers Stevie G

I’m very much counting trading out as different to trading in although I would take the point that they directly correlate.

But following that view, based on the above:

• Grealish- you have to factor in the pure profit element. Plus, without doing the maths, I wonder how close it is on goals/assist from the 3 recruited players VS just Grealish. The wages also.
• Tielemans was the Luiz replacement and that’s been an upgrade.
• Ings was replaced with Duran. A better longer term prospect as evidenced by his progress and finally sale amount.
• Duran was great business. I doubt anyone will get anywhere close to what we got during the rest of his career. His behaviour effectively forced our hand. With a bit more patience on his part, he could have legitimately been our number one striker by now.
• Diaby - not quite sure who directly replaced him. Combination of Rodgers/Malen?
• Targett replaced with Digne - massive upgrade.

Don’t forget Philogene (“thinks that, I am on the one” -will get my coat).

[pauliewalnuts]

Our recruitment the last few years has not been great

Yeah, I reckon going from a squad which survived immediate relegation back to the Championship on the last day of the season, to being in the QF of the Champions League five years after, that has been some proper shit recruitment.

I mean, honestly, that's a Tim level post. Worse, even.

[Toronto Villa]

We haven’t really been stung on the sales front. Targett, Grealish, Ings, Duran, Diaby, Luiz; I think we’ve won on all fronts and been smart. But this one could be different.

Not sure about that at all. No matter what we sell players for, it's not worth all that much if the funds aren't reinvested to make the team better.

Grealish - replaced by Ings, Bailey and Buendia. Frankly a disaster that cost Deano his job, still trying to get rid of two of the three of them.
Luiz - yes Tielemans did a great job replacing his influence as our playmaker last season but Luiz was replaced in the squad by Onana, I'll be kind and say a dud thus far.
Ings, yes and credit to Emery there. Hard decision but Watkins thrived immediately without him and Ings was done.
Duran - big profit made on him but it's all relative. He was a ready made Watkins replacement and we are now more reliant on Ollie than ever.
Diaby - maybe Malen will provide that direct pace option he brought, Rogers has stepped into the breach with more potential to be fair.
Targett - was it Digne who replaced him? Fine I guess, cheers Stevie G

3/10

[villa for life]

Our recruitment the last few years has not been great

Yeah, I reckon going from a squad which survived immediate relegation back to the Championship on the last day of the season, to being in the QF of the Champions League five years after, that has been some proper shit recruitment.

I mean, honestly, that's a Tim level post. Worse, even.

Your post is verging on abusive. Please apologize to Tim. Mods, have a word.

Nobody mentioned the words “proper shit recruitment”.

Please also mind your manners .

[PeterWithesShin]

From this v Derby to what we'll be putting out v Newcastle, dreadful transfers since promotion

Jed Steer
Ahmed Elmohamady
Axel Tuanzebe
Tyrone Mings
Neil Taylor
John McGinn
Conor Hourihane
Jack Grealish
Albert Adomah
Tammy Abraham
Anwar El Ghazi

Substitutes:
Glenn Whelan
Henri Lansbury
Mile Jedinak
Andre Green
Jonathan Kodjia
Lovre Kalinić
Kortney Hause

[LeeB]

Name a club that's been better at recruitment in the last 5 years.

Brighton are considered the kings of it generally and we've started from a division below and sailed past them.

[brontebilly]

We haven’t really been stung on the sales front. Targett, Grealish, Ings, Duran, Diaby, Luiz; I think we’ve won on all fronts and been smart. But this one could be different.

Not sure about that at all. No matter what we sell players for, it's not worth all that much if the funds aren't reinvested to make the team better.


Duran - big profit made on him but it's all relative. He was a ready made Watkins replacement and we are now more reliant on Ollie than ever.

Why is it 'all relative'?

We bought him, had him score some important goals, and then sold him for a massive profit. I thought you said this was poor recruitment?

Diaby - maybe Malen will provide that direct pace option he brought, Rogers has stepped into the breach with more potential to be fair.

And where did Rogers come from? He didn't just fall out of the sky.

We still haven't recruited Duran's replacement, not to mind Ollie's. That's my point. We banked a big profit on JD, so what?

[LeonW]

We haven’t really been stung on the sales front. Targett, Grealish, Ings, Duran, Diaby, Luiz; I think we’ve won on all fronts and been smart. But this one could be different.

Not sure about that at all. No matter what we sell players for, it's not worth all that much if the funds aren't reinvested to make the team better.


Duran - big profit made on him but it's all relative. He was a ready made Watkins replacement and we are now more reliant on Ollie than ever.

Why is it 'all relative'?

We bought him, had him score some important goals, and then sold him for a massive profit. I thought you said this was poor recruitment?

Diaby - maybe Malen will provide that direct pace option he brought, Rogers has stepped into the breach with more potential to be fair.

And where did Rogers come from? He didn't just fall out of the sky.

We still haven't recruited Duran's replacement, not to mind Ollie's. That's my point. We banked a big profit on JD, so what?

I don’t think that’s how we operate. It looks to be that we want multi functional players.

[villa for life]

Gone on wages… nowadays when you analyze a recruitment policy it’s as much if not more about the wages offered as the actual transfer fee.

[Percy McCarthy]

We haven’t really been stung on the sales front. Targett, Grealish, Ings, Duran, Diaby, Luiz; I think we’ve won on all fronts and been smart. But this one could be different.

Not sure about that at all. No matter what we sell players for, it's not worth all that much if the funds aren't reinvested to make the team better.

Grealish - replaced by Ings, Bailey and Buendia. Frankly a disaster that cost Deano his job, still trying to get rid of two of the three of them.
Luiz - yes Tielemans did a great job replacing his influence as our playmaker last season but Luiz was replaced in the squad by Onana, I'll be kind and say a dud thus far.
Ings, yes and credit to Emery there. Hard decision but Watkins thrived immediately without him and Ings was done.
Duran - big profit made on him but it's all relative. He was a ready made Watkins replacement and we are now more reliant on Ollie than ever.
Diaby - maybe Malen will provide that direct pace option he brought, Rogers has stepped into the breach with more potential to be fair.
Targett - was it Digne who replaced him? Fine I guess, cheers Stevie G

I know you usually think they’re irrelevant and all that mate, but… results?

[Pete3206]

Shit anyway.

[PaulWinch again]

Our recruitment the last few years has not been great

Yeah, I reckon going from a squad which survived immediate relegation back to the Championship on the last day of the season, to being in the QF of the Champions League five years after, that has been some proper shit recruitment.

I mean, honestly, that's a Tim level post. Worse, even.

Both tend to agree on things. I think it’s a bit of a mad take to say our recruitment hasn’t been up to much - we have an incredibly high hit rate.

[villa for life]

Our recruitment the last few years has not been great

Yeah, I reckon going from a squad which survived immediate relegation back to the Championship on the last day of the season, to being in the QF of the Champions League five years after, that has been some proper shit recruitment.

I mean, honestly, that's a Tim level post. Worse, even.

Both tend to agree on things. I think it’s a bit of a mad take to say our recruitment hasn’t been up to much - we have an incredibly high hit rate.

Classic case of “othering”

[brontebilly]

We haven’t really been stung on the sales front. Targett, Grealish, Ings, Duran, Diaby, Luiz; I think we’ve won on all fronts and been smart. But this one could be different.

Not sure about that at all. No matter what we sell players for, it's not worth all that much if the funds aren't reinvested to make the team better.

Grealish - replaced by Ings, Bailey and Buendia. Frankly a disaster that cost Deano his job, still trying to get rid of two of the three of them.
Luiz - yes Tielemans did a great job replacing his influence as our playmaker last season but Luiz was replaced in the squad by Onana, I'll be kind and say a dud thus far.
Ings, yes and credit to Emery there. Hard decision but Watkins thrived immediately without him and Ings was done.
Duran - big profit made on him but it's all relative. He was a ready made Watkins replacement and we are now more reliant on Ollie than ever.
Diaby - maybe Malen will provide that direct pace option he brought, Rogers has stepped into the breach with more potential to be fair.
Targett - was it Digne who replaced him? Fine I guess, cheers Stevie G

I’m very much counting trading out as different to trading in although I would take the point that they directly correlate.

But following that view, based on the above:

• Grealish- you have to factor in the pure profit element. Plus, without doing the maths, I wonder how close it is on goals/assist from the 3 recruited players VS just Grealish. The wages also.
• Tielemans was the Luiz replacement and that’s been an upgrade.
• Ings was replaced with Duran. A better longer term prospect as evidenced by his progress and finally sale amount.
• Duran was great business. I doubt anyone will get anywhere close to what we got during the rest of his career. His behaviour effectively forced our hand. With a bit more patience on his part, he could have legitimately been our number one striker by now.
• Diaby - not quite sure who directly replaced him. Combination of Rodgers/Malen?
• Targett replaced with Digne - massive upgrade.

Don’t forget Philogene (“thinks that, I am on the one” -will get my coat).

That pure profit argument is one I hate to be honest and no doubt it's the same reason why Ramsey was sold today. Grealish was a bad sale for us, maybe not the best buy for Citeh either. Spurs & Bale comes to mind.

We can agree to disagree on Luiz/Tielemans, for a lot of last season plenty were worried about where our goal threat from midfield had disappeared to. They both played well together too with Tielemans higher up. Onana simply can't play that role so it's a net loss there. Onana for me was just poorly scouted and we way overpaid for him.

I agree on Duran, he was impossible to manage so had to go. But the reality is our forward line last season was far stronger than it looks now.

I think Emerys recruitment has been good rather than spectacular, Rogers obviously the stand out. But his main strength has been coaching, tactical instruction and man management in turning around a core of underperforming players. McGinn, Mings, Cash, Digne, Luiz, Tielemans (signed but he was in hibernation), Watkins. Id love to have seen how he could have really got JJ going this season.

[Somniloquism]

Your post is verging on abusive. Please apologize to Tim. Mods, have a word.

Nobody mentioned the words “proper shit recruitment”.

Please also mind your manners .

I suppose comparing you to Tim does deserve an apology, I don't think Tim has repeatedly advised us to sell a current World Cup winner and two time Yashin holder yet. But he did always advocate we should get Bamford in so swings and roundabouts.