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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3195 on: Today at 05:00:31 PM »
Unfortuantely - this is what football has become.  Its shit - and is basically just the latest installment into turning Premier League Football into WWE Wrestling.  It isnt the same sport that any of us fell in love with. 

The problem is it isnt actually a sport anymore, its light entertainment.  Content.  Football isn't measured by homegrown talent, or fairness, or the quality of the game.   Its measured in likes and clicks.  They want any kind integrity removed from it so it can be packaged and streamed to as many people as possible. The world wants to see Man Utd v Liverpool every week.  And we're just bit part players in the story.   

Fuckin hell.
The new season starts on Saturday. Cheer up.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3196 on: Today at 05:03:05 PM »
Him being offered contracts and turning them down has nothing to with anything other than him wanting more money. It's absolutely his right to do that but let's not pretend the club, or even modern football has anything to do with him wanting some extra doubloons each week rather than stay at 'his' club.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3197 on: Today at 05:05:09 PM »
I understand the reasons for this but I'm still mightily pissed off, I understood the reasons for Jack going and that was kind of inevitable given where we were and where he went. This just seems so avoidable. I'm not entirely convinced the hierarchies of clubs understand the connection between fans and players who have come through our system, or they understand it well enough and don't care.
It was avoidable if he was prepared to sign a contract.  This is down to him / his agent valuing him higher than Villa did.


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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3198 on: Today at 05:06:12 PM »
One day we will get our business done sooner into the transfer window.........This mean Asensio is coming back? I am out of the loop villa wise

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3199 on: Today at 05:07:53 PM »
I understand the reasons for this but I'm still mightily pissed off, I understood the reasons for Jack going and that was kind of inevitable given where we were and where he went. This just seems so avoidable. I'm not entirely convinced the hierarchies of clubs understand the connection between fans and players who have come through our system, or they understand it well enough and don't care.

Deals like this are incentivised by these idiotic regulations. I doubt for one second the club would be considering selling JJ to a rival like Newcastle only for the financial "headroom" it gives us.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3200 on: Today at 05:08:27 PM »
One day we will get our business done sooner into the transfer window.........This mean Asensio is coming back? I am out of the loop villa wise

Like last season when all our notable ins and outs were done before the end of July?

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3201 on: Today at 05:09:20 PM »
That Romano fella has given it his 'Here We Go' thing.... 

If we didn't want to sell him and he was just being a money grabbing arse despite knowing how tight things are at the club and how little he's given back these past couple of seasons, then I hope he gets splinters in his arse watching Gordon set the league on fire, otherwise, fuck PSR or whatever it was called, and good luck JJ.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3202 on: Today at 05:10:09 PM »
Some on here found fault when we put 7 past Liverpool. They're just bores sadly.

As are the happy clampers who cheered on Tony Xias shiny shoes

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3203 on: Today at 05:11:46 PM »
I reckon it's much healthier for your mind to be overly cheerful and positive rather than overly miserable and negative.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3204 on: Today at 05:12:51 PM »
4 out of ten, sorry bore out of ten.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3205 on: Today at 05:12:56 PM »
From what I've read, we were unable (or unwilling) to get anywhere near what Newcastle are going to be paying him. It's difficult to argue he's better off with us, on a much smaller wage, without a definite place in the team, and without Champions League football.

This might end up being one of those instances where it's just best for all parties. He gets more money and a different opportunity. We get money which we desperately need in order to comply with some regulatory nonsense, and have banked our profit on an academy product. Newcastle get a good player that could become great.

It still doesn't sit well with me. But that's more to do with my feelings about the game in general, rather than any of the specifics of this deal.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3206 on: Today at 05:14:41 PM »
I am genuinely out of the loop but wondering aloud that was all. Shall fuck off back to being out of the loop.

Offline enigma

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3207 on: Today at 05:20:21 PM »
Just had a quick peek at a Newcastle forum and they're pretty excited over there. Probably just happy to have found someone out there finally willing to sign for them.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3208 on: Today at 05:22:41 PM »
I think a lot is to do with the sudden rise of Rogers - I don't think they were anticipating that when he signed.  And on most measurements he has surpassed Ramsey.
I agree, but this only works if Rogers plays on the left

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #3209 on: Today at 05:28:25 PM »
He didn't look happy to me last season. There seemed to be some frustration bubbling under the surface. I expect that playing second fiddle to Rogers' rise and improved contract (not to mention Asensio, Rashford) has put his nose out of joint.

I don't think you could blame him if that is the case. Equally, you can understand why the club would be unwilling, at his age, to bracket him towards the top of the salary scale when he has still to show his worth on the pitch, week in and week out - especially with SCR rules.

I wish him luck, in any event. He's a thoroughly modern player, shame he couldn't achieve that potential in claret and blue.


 


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