Jacob Ramsey

[Somniloquism]

£38mil according to Sky a few mins ago.

[ChicagoLion]

£38mil according to Sky a few mins ago.

Now £43mil

[brontebilly]

As gutting as this is I’m losing one of our own, it does seem that we have given him the opportunity to stay, so it’s not like we’ve pushed him out of the door.

I'm not sure what was to be lost by either party for JJ to stay and review again in January or next summer. Solid season and he's still worth at least 40m, throw in a England cap or two along the way. Star season, of which I think he very, capable of, and his book value is far higher.

If there was only 12 months left I'd understand a take it or leave it deal but letting one of our biggest rivals have him for 40m beggars belief.

[Paul.S]

If Guessand can add a few goals then surely we’ll be better off than we have been for the last 2 seasons with Ramsey.
I’m not saying I wanted Ramsey to go as I rate him but simply that he’s been injured. I don’t see this making us worse off as much as we didn’t want him to go.

[manic-road]

I don't think that he has reached his potential yet, but if we were buying a midfield player for £40m that had only scored one goal last season we would be questioning it.

[Somniloquism]

£38mil according to Sky a few mins ago.

Now £43mil

Probably with the add-ons.

[Drummond]

As gutting as this is I’m losing one of our own, it does seem that we have given him the opportunity to stay, so it’s not like we’ve pushed him out of the door.

I'm not sure what was to be lost by either party for JJ to stay and review again in January or next summer. Solid season and he's still worth at least 40m, throw in a England cap or two along the way. Star season, of which I think he very, capable of, and his book value is far higher.

If there was only 12 months left I'd understand a take it or leave it deal but letting one of our biggest rivals have him for 40m beggars belief.

Becasue he wanted more money than we were prepared to pay. He decided he wanted Newcastle, so we've let him go, for a price that suits us.

[Somniloquism]

Main downside of JJ leaving is one less spot in the A list. Not sure if it helps with the Cost control but there is a chance it won't be able to be filled with our current squad anyway.

[Pat Mustard]

As gutting as this is I’m losing one of our own, it does seem that we have given him the opportunity to stay, so it’s not like we’ve pushed him out of the door.

I'm not sure what was to be lost by either party for JJ to stay and review again in January or next summer. Solid season and he's still worth at least 40m, throw in a England cap or two along the way. Star season, of which I think he very, capable of, and his book value is far higher.

If there was only 12 months left I'd understand a take it or leave it deal but letting one of our biggest rivals have him for 40m beggars belief.

That is assuming that he has at least a solid start to the season.  Unfortunately with JJ, it's probably more likely that he would either spend the majority of his time on the bench, or miss a couple of months injured.  If that was the case, then in January you'd be looking at £20 million tops, and if he then decided to wait out the next 6 month we'd be getting nothing.

As someone else said, he is 24 and scored 1 goal last season, having missed virtually the entirety of the season before that.  In those circumstances £40 million is bloody good money.  He might turn out to be the second coming of Frank Lampard, but we're not in the position where we can offer him the money he wants in order to see if it happens.

[Rigadon]

As gutting as this is I’m losing one of our own, it does seem that we have given him the opportunity to stay, so it’s not like we’ve pushed him out of the door.

I'm not sure what was to be lost by either party for JJ to stay and review again in January or next summer. Solid season and he's still worth at least 40m, throw in a England cap or two along the way. Star season, of which I think he very, capable of, and his book value is far higher.

If there was only 12 months left I'd understand a take it or leave it deal but letting one of our biggest rivals have him for 40m beggars belief.

If you were to give a post-match style mark out of 10 for this transfer, I'd say it's a 4/10 at best. 

[brontebilly]

If Guessand can add a few goals then surely we’ll be better off than we have been for the last 2 seasons with Ramsey.
I’m not saying I wanted Ramsey to go as I rate him but simply that he’s been injured. I don’t see this making us worse off as much as we didn’t want him to go.

He only missed 10 games last season, big improvement from almost a complete write off from the previous year.

His form was a bit mixed last season (Wolves away he had a shocker from memory) but for me it was more to get him confident in his body again. Liverpool away, our best player by miles until he limped off, you were wondering what his future was. He gave us much needed balance in the team that the likes of Rashford failed to on that side . The season before we tried loads there, likes of Zaniolo, Rogers, McGinn etc but nobody came remotely close to Ramsey the previous season. McGinn only got 1 x PL goal last season too but I don't see the stats merchants going on about it here. Playing wide in our midfield is a tough role that suits both JJ and McGinn perfectly.

Was it Brugge he came on and made a huge impact? Man City away he was stupidly replaced by Emery when playing really well and winning the peno. His general form certainly wasn't bad last season either.

[caster troy]

Strange one, clearly can't have been *that* much of a fan if he's gone to a rival for a few more £. With Rashford gone and Rogers now more of a '10' you'd think he'd have had plenty of opportunities this season.

[Matt C]

Done for 39m + 5m in add-ons according to The Athletic

[Astnor]

Might be that Ramsey is not exactly the kind of player UE want up left, might be that UE think that players in the mould of Rogers and Guessand is what our system needs up top. I have always liked him in the team but he might not have been that effective lately

[boozey182]

As gutting as this is I’m losing one of our own, it does seem that we have given him the opportunity to stay, so it’s not like we’ve pushed him out of the door.

I'm not sure what was to be lost by either party for JJ to stay and review again in January or next summer. Solid season and he's still worth at least 40m, throw in a England cap or two along the way. Star season, of which I think he very, capable of, and his book value is far higher.

If there was only 12 months left I'd understand a take it or leave it deal but letting one of our biggest rivals have him for 40m beggars belief.

I'm not particularly happy about this at all, but to put the fee in perspective - if we were buying him for that price, he'd be our third biggest signing of all time. I would much rather he stayed, but let's not frame the price tag as pittance. It's a huge amount of money that our academy has generated.