Jacob Ramsey

[VillaTim]

This is not a case of Billy big bollix wanting to leave for champions league football bla bla. This is a Villa boy, who went to my school, who may be being used for the good of the club as a sacrificial sale. If he does leave he should be welcomed back in the future as one of our own, whichever shirt he is wearing at that time. I hope he stays. He has huge potential if he can stay fit.

Spot on, I've seen a few posters immaturely all of a sudden turn on him "only conference" type quotes . Short memories . Let's hope we get his new deal over the line , if we don't , fair enough, the world will continue to turn but he will remain one of our own .

[pauliewalnuts]

Damian Vidagany and Monchi were in a room with Ramsey and two other blokes.
It was very heated.

My money would be on Monchi, he wouldn't even need Damian's help.

Monchi strikes me as the type who would lead the argument to a heated conclusion, then just as you're walking out of the door, say "By the way, how are the wife and kids?" and then stare at you.

[PaulWinch again]

Yeah to be fair immaturity and an overly myopic view on things can be frustrating. My view on Ramsey is, he’s a player with lots of potential who for a few reasons has stalled a bit. Ideally I’d keep him, but if he’d prefer to look elsewhere then I think it’s sensible to sell.

[eamonn]

Damian Vidagany and Monchi were in a room with Ramsey and two other blokes.
It was very heated.

My money would be on Monchi, he wouldn't even need Damian's help.

Monchi strikes me as the type who would lead the argument to a heated conclusion, then just as you're walking out of the door, say "By the way, how are the wife and kids?" and then stare at you.

This made me chuckle. It's probably true and gives him great power over men who wanna be him and wimmin who want to shag him.

[Beard82]

I’m also hearing but less certain it’s us who want him to go not the other way round.

But we have put a new contract deal on the table for him?

Yep. At a guess:

His last contract extension was April 22 when Ramsey was developing quickly into a first team regular and under Gerrard, who was a massive fan, so we'll have offered something befitting a player we thought was going to break into the England squad within 18months.

Since then he had a good season, starred for the England U21s and then hit a wall and hasn't even got back to where he was let alone developed further. Given he's now 24 he'll want his next contract to be a big pay rise and the assurance of regular starts that offers (to a degree) whereas for the club we probably want to extend his deal but not give the extra cash yet whilst we see if he can still take that next step to fulfil his potential. Assuming the £70k p/w is right I wouldn't be surprised if he's asking for £100k but we're not going above £80k and I don't think either side would be particularly wrong in their view either.

I think this wouldnt surprise me.  He would like to be paid like a top star, and the club dont see him quite at that level.  Added to the fact that with Mings and Digne they seem to have changed the pay structure to a lower standard salary and they probably dont have too many options.

[ChicagoLion]

Quite a lot of speculation but very few facts.

[eamonn]

Mings and Digne are 6 or 7 years older than him though, JJ's 24 and entering peak-contract years.

[paul_e]

Quite a lot of speculation but very few facts.

Well yeah, that's why I started with "at a guess", it's entirely speculation on my part.