Jacob Ramsey

[eamonn]

I wonder how much more Newcastle are offering him. If he's on 70k a week here, I guess it must be over 100k with them. Who's his agent, Ramsey most Snr, the boxer?

[PeterWithesShin]

It may be as simple as he fancies something different after 18 years at the club.

[john e]

It may be as simple as he fancies something different after 18 years at the club.

Do you know what I was thinking about that just the other day
When we were discussing the likes of Martinez Watkins going and the reasons they might want to leave, would it be money trophies bigger club?

When a more boring reason could be they just fancy a change of scenery and a different challenge

In the end, it was none of them as they didn’t go

[steamer]

I will be sorry if he goes, seems as if he will.
Like most on here wanted him to kick on with his form prior to injury.
But as PWS says maybe he just wants a new challenge after 18 years. Will be in Champs league, not guaranteed automatic start here.
Good luck

[garyellis]

It seems fairly straight forward.
We have offered him a new contract not at the level he thinks he is worth. Other clubs will pay him nearer his own valuation. So its a choice for him to make.
The club have made the decision to protect or sell their asset.
Personally wanted him to stay and would rather have invested in Ramsey than bring Jack back but we are where we are.

[VillaTim]

Hopefully we improve his package and he stays . Be a shame if he chooses them over us but life will go on .

[Pat Mustard]

As much as I would like Ramsey to stay, this is one of those ones that just happens and probably suits all parties.  He is 24 now and has never really kicked on here in the way that, say, Morgan Rogers has.  There have always been problems with his susceptibility to injury meaning he has struggled to ever get a consistent run of starts, and £40 million with 2 years left on his contract is probably as much as we will ever get for him.

If we use the money to cover positions where we have a genuine need (CB/RB, real pace from wide) then it's not a deal I'd be too unhappy with.

[PeterWithesShin]

Even though he's a local lad amd been with us yonks I never feel he's a 'Villa man'. Whereas i'd say EmiM and SJM are.

[Drummond]

"It's only a Conference League game"

[Smithy]

I don't like seeing homegrown players move on when they are able to contribute in our first team.  It's rare enough for one to come through and be good enough for the squad, it's another thing to see them come through a thrive and become important players.  Jacob's ceiling is high - he was on the verge of a full England breakthrough before his big foot injury, and that's a level he's capable of playing at.

All that said, I trust Unai.  If he signs off on it because he thinks he can use the money to make the team more competitive this season, then so be it.  I just hope he's not being sold - even though Unai doesn't want him to go - because of PSR concerns.

[paul_e]

I really like Ramsey and think he was on course to be a top premier league player and someone we could build the team around but there is a niggling concern that I've been trying to ignore that he seems half a yard slower after all his injury problems. Maybe he'll get that back if he can stay fit and get a good run of regular starts but if he doesn't want to sign a new deal I think the risk is too high to give it another year and potentially have him go for a lot less or even hang on and go for nothing.

I'll hate it if he pushes on and finds form somewhere else but I'd hate it even more if his career stalls with us and we see him go for nothing when we had an opportunity to make a big profit on him and use the funds to seal 1-2 signings that can strengthen the squad.

I don't know what the best thing for the club is here but if he goes I'll accept it as the pragmatic decision, especially if one of Rogers, Watkins, Emi or Bouba going was the alternative.

[Brazilian Villain]

Even though he's a local lad amd been with us yonks I never feel he's a 'Villa man'. Whereas i'd say EmiM and SJM are.

A fair point, as have been the others you've made since the JJ transfer news broke.

[Paul.S]

If a player doesn’t want to commit to the club then let them go. I’m not just directing this at Ramsey, but any player.
We move on and replace them, that’s the world of football these days.

[Brend'Watkins]

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see Ramsey signing an improved contract Friday afternoon.

[villadelph]

What if his agent is just using Newcastle to get him a better payday here? Which is his job. Find market value, get market value. He’s only 24 and this has Albrighton part 2 written all over it. “Not Villa” is just insane. He was afraid to speak in front of a camera until a year or two ago. He hasn’t been forced on us from the media team so it may seem like he’s distant from the supporters.

He’s a great player and can still improve. If he leaves for Newcastle so be it, but to convince ourselves otherwise just isn’t grounded in fact.