Jacob Ramsey

[PeterWithesShin]

Yes Luiz. Go back, many thought it was a transfer that would bite us, early days of course but no sign of that so far.

[john2710]

He's going to Newcastle because they are offering him more money than we are. Nothing more complicated than that.

We will finish the season above them.

[VillaTim]

I hope we get more than £40M hes worth more than that . Southampton are peddling that Dibling kid for £50M FFS

[PaulWinch again]

He wants to go. He’s been in and out. We just need to maximise value.

[PeterWithe]

He wants to go. He’s been in and out. We just need to maximise value.

Yes, real shame this has happened but given he's got 2 years left, they are desperate and his potential, I think £40m is low for a regular in a top 5 team.

[Bosco81]

Unai used to take him off last season even when he seemed to be having a good game, so perhaps Unai wasn’t totally happy with him, and Ramsey may have been frustrated with his game time.

It’s a shame if he does go, and £40M feels about right, I can see him playing for Newcastle as one of their midfield three, he’s got the physicality that they seem to like.

[AlexAlexCropley]

When I see him in a Newcastle shirt it's going to cut me deep.

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

When I see him in a Newcastle shirt it's going to cut me deep.

This.

[bill]

Players come, players go. It’s always been the way. Replace him with a better player. Hell, we sold Andy Gray and John Gidman. Villa fans thought it was a disaster. Welcome Peter Withe, the rest is history.

[tomd2103]

I don't think he's spent two years regressing. He's been really good at times, admittedly in patches, mostly last season but also left out of big games. We finished 4th without much contribution from him in 23/24.

His partnership with Moreno was a joy to behold but since the injuries, he hasn't blossomed in the way his mate Rogers has or anywhere close to it. I wonder if Morgan's ascent and Rashford coming in and taking his place at times, made his mind up. I'm also surprised that we haven't been presented any articles from Tanswell or Percy over the past few months about his reluctance to sign a new deal and that it's only being mentioned now.

One abiding memory of 23/24, our best season since the mid-90s, was when Ramsey came on as a sub at home to Brighton and scored an absolute peach as we hammered them 6-1. The goal just exuded class. He has that in his locker and we, frustratingly, haven't seen enough of it. He's dynamic, strong, very comfortable with the ball at his feet and it's going to be a pisser seeing him deliver the goods in a black and white shirt. I just hope he doesn't do it too often, per the last couple of years. The dream of three Ramsey boys in the same Villa team was alw ays pretty unlikely but hopefully Cole at least gets to emulate his brothers.

The injuries have really hampered him.  He was superb in the run-in during Emery's first season and he just looked like a young player ready to really impose himself in the top flight.  He's never really had a decent run of games since getting injured that summer, but the hope has rrn there that he could have a run of games and recover that form. 

[VillaTim]

He wants to go. He’s been in and out. We just need to maximise value.

Yes, real shame this has happened but given he's got 2 years left, they are desperate and his potential, I think £40m is low for a regular in a top 5 team.

its £25m too low

[Drummond]

\from BBC Sport article.. "The 24-year-old will hold talks with Villa before making a decision on his future....."

That line was interesting. Perhaps he's playing hardball to get more money, Newcastle are desperately pushing and we're just not giving in.... I guess we'll see over the next couple of days whether it's a done deal (seems likely) or a big game of brinkmanship (seems unlikely) or just the agent trying to big the whole thing up (almost certain).

I suspect Emery would like to keep, we're trying to manage costs, his agent is telling him he's worth more and Newcastle are promising the earth. We won't pay what they will, Emery won't guarantee anything and he'll go.

[cdbearsfan]

https://www.cityam.com/does-premier-league-transfer-window-shut-can-players-still/

According to this, slightly out of date, he would need to sign by midday on Friday to play against us this weekend.

[boozey182]

I don't know how to feel about this. On the face of it, we're getting a decent amount for an attacking player that has scored two league goals in two years, and hasn't made a position in the side his own. In terms of PSR, the money we'll get can be used to really improve the squad where we need to, and Rogers does a lot of what Ramsey does, but better. So that money could be spent in an area that would help the team more. We know we can live without Ramsey, because we've basically had to for two years.

On the other hand, £40 million for a player on the cusp of the England squad doesn't seem that great. Little Tommy Tuchel named him as a player he was excited about, and two years ago he was one of the best players in the country. One annoying injury that he couldn't quite shake has halted his progress, but with a full season, he could get back to that level, at which point £40 million would seem incredibly cheap. Also, with the UEFA wage limit restrictions, we're still hamstrung about what we can do with the money - does this really help us that much? (I don't know the answer to this and I'm almost certain the answer will bore me).

But the overriding feeling I have right now is ennui. I loved watching Ramsey play, because you always felt he had more of a connection to the club. Local lad, that was in the away end for the 'Grealish getting hit' match, that came through the ranks with his two brothers. This is the sort of story that anybody that has any remaining affection for the game lives for. But football isn't run by anyone that has any affection for the game, so the entire sport is built around the basis that it is better to sell academy products than to watch them bloom. One-club men don't generate money.

It looks like his place in the squad will be replaced by Asensio. He's won everything there is to win, and scored more goals in half a season than Ramsey has in two years, but I know whose name I'd rather chant.

This might be good business for us. But it's getting harder and harder to feel anything about good business.

[PeterWithe]

True dat, well said.