Jacob Ramsey

[DB]

If he hadn’t come through our youth scheme and wasn’t a Villa fan, how many of us would be so bothered at selling him for 40m?

I just think that’s clouding our assessment of this.

I disagree, I think his lack of involvement due to injury over the last couple of seasons is causing some downplaying of his potential.

I agree with Paulie the Villa ties are impacting views on this move. Also, the fact of his lack of involvement due to injury is another reason that £40m is why we should take the offer (if there is one).
I would still like to keep him though for the squad, unless we get an upgrade coming in.

[Monty]

Thing is though he’s made a choice hasn’t he, assuming what we’re told is true? It’s not like he’s being forced to go, he’s been offered terms - he could have stayed but he’s chosen not to.

I do get the frustration of home grown players being sold, but he’s making that choice by the sounds of it.

And to quote Catch-22, how's that meant to make me feel better?

[pauliewalnuts]

Really shit news that we are letting him go, really shit news that he wont sign up again, really shit news that we cant make the richest club in the world part with money that reflects his value.

Shit.

They're not rich if they can't spend the cash, they are hamstrung in the same way we are.

[Monty]

Really shit news that we are letting him go, really shit news that he wont sign up again, really shit news that we cant make the richest club in the world part with money that reflects his value.

Shit.

They're not rich if they can't spend the cash, they are hamstrung in the same way we are.

And yet out of the two punk they've still managed to make us theirs.

[PaulWinch again]

Thing is though he’s made a choice hasn’t he, assuming what we’re told is true? It’s not like he’s being forced to go, he’s been offered terms - he could have stayed but he’s chosen not to.

I do get the frustration of home grown players being sold, but he’s making that choice by the sounds of it.

And to quote Catch-22, how's that meant to make me feel better?

Well I suppose the point is if he were so minded he’d be staying - so for whatever the issues are with modern football we’re not actively pursuing the sale of key homegrown talent. The option is there for them to pursue their career with Villa.

[PeterWithesShin]

£40m is a decent price for a player that's spent 2 years regressing. If he was a Bournemouth player and youth product how much would people think we should pay for him if we were after him?

[Chris Smith]

Maybe an overreaction but how much I care about the upcoming session has taken a real hit from this. £40m at current English prices to our most direct rivals who just happen also to be the embodiment of all evil.

Like, what's the point anymore? If I wanted to watch demonic tyrannical bastards rip the heart out everything in English life I like or care about, I already have reality. Following football these days just feels too much like the same sour shit as the rest of the news.

Fuck this honestly.

My initial reaction was similar but having slept on I feel it’s just another in a long line of players who will have left us stretching back to Andy Gray that has pissed me off in the short term. It’s never a good feeling but he hasn’t been forced out, he’s chosen not to sign a new contract.

[PeterWithe]

With a premium tax applicable because he's moving to a direct rival, in the PL, they are eye wateringly rich and have been turned down by most players who have ever laced a pair of boots, I'd say £60m would ease the pain a little.

[PeterWithesShin]

Many were saying the same when we sold Archer, best finisher at the club etc, he's spent 2 years struggling to hold down a starting place in the worst sides in the division. We were going to regret selling Aaron, whose done fuck all. Luiz, gone backwards. The list of players we regret selling in this set up is tiny compared to the list of the ones that showed we were right to move on.

[Olneythelonely]

With a premium tax applicable because he's moving to a direct rival, in the PL, they are eye wateringly rich and have been turned down by most players who have ever laced a pair of boots, I'd say £60m would ease the pain a little.

We need money.

If I needed to sell my house to buy a new one more suitable to my needs, sure I could hang on and demand more money, but depending on my situation, I might just have to sell it to the only interested buyer for what they want to pay. So long as it allows me to buy my new house.

*not sure it’s a perfect analogy but I’m currently trying to sell my house and buy a new one

[VinnieChase84]

He wanted more money than was offered in multiple contracts
Therefore then decided he wanted to run contract down and assess options in each window

Club have had no choice to sell now - otherwise it’s like the Guehi situation where in a years time we’re getting half the amount vs now

[ChicagoLion]

With a premium tax applicable because he's moving to a direct rival, in the PL, they are eye wateringly rich and have been turned down by most players who have ever laced a pair of boots, I'd say £60m would ease the pain a little.

We need money.

If I needed to sell my house to buy a new one more suitable to my needs, sure I could hang on and demand more money, but depending on my situation, I might just have to sell it to the only interested buyer for what they want to pay. So long as it allows me to buy my new house.

*not sure it’s a perfect analogy but I’m currently trying to sell my house and buy a new one

A perfectly reasonable analogy.
My understanding is that if any player expresses a wish to leave, the club sets a fee of what they would expect, I would imagine that is the case here once contract negotiations broke down. Also I have very little faith in the numbers that get bandied about in the media.

[cdbearsfan]

He wanted more money than was offered in multiple contracts
Therefore then decided he wanted to run contract down and assess options in each window

Club have had no choice to sell now - otherwise it’s like the Guehi situation where in a years time we’re getting half the amount vs now

Yeah, I don't think you can really argue with that. Especially if selling him now means we can keep all the other first teamers whereas holding on to him would mean we would have to sell someone like Martinez or Watkins and still lose Ramsey for half as much next summer.

[PeterWithesShin]

Plenty on here would shit a brick if we offered 60m for Gordon, a player a similar age and has done a lot more the last 2 years. No way is JJ currently a 60m player.

[Olneythelonely]

Good point, I didn’t point out that the house (Ramsey) is slowly falling apart (running down a contract) and will decrease in value each year.

This is about the Ramsey situation. My house isn’t falling apart. Promise. Anyone want to buy a house?