Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[tomd2103]

I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

Without knowing exactly what the problem is now it's impossible to call but if it's a different injury then it could be that he's come back when there's still some pain or uncertainty and it's affected his stride which puts pressure on different parts of his foot and has created a new problem. This happens all the time and why you often see people get little niggles when they come back from a bigger injury. I think this is most likely and hopefully it'll only be a couple of weeks out.

If he's reopened the existing break then, as someone said above, that's more likely to be a freak accident, especially at that level I'd be amazed if there weren't x-rays/scans done throughout the injury to make sure it was recovering as expected and he'll only have been allowed back when it was looking good.

Fair point.

I suppose its best to wait for all the available details.

Hopefully, its not too serious.

With him missing, I think it has proven what a key element he is to our way of playing.

Which means that I think we need to be looking at a solid, dependable & similar style footballer to be his backup when we next look at the transfer window.

Same with Moreno.

I think Zaniolo can fill a similar role.

No chance, Ramsey is in a different league in terms of athleticism and presence. Also puts Emery under a bit of pressure to put McGinn back on the left side against better teams to give Digne more support. Didn't work against Liverpool, mind.

We have no cover for McGinn or Ramsey in that box midfield setup. Both perform their roles perfectly. The difference Ramsey made when he came on v Brighton was ridiculous.

Agree with all of that.  We haven't had the sae balance in the side when Ramsey has been out, as no one can really play that role in the same way.  Even McGinn looks more effective on the right side than on the left.

[Yeltzer]

The Athletic are saying he has suffered recurrence of the broken metatarsal he had at the end of last season:

Aston Villa midfielder Jacob Ramsey has suffered a reoccurrence of the metatarsal injury that he sustained towards the end of last season.

The 22-year-old was ruled out for ten weeks after breaking the metatarsal bone in his left foot during England’s 1-0 victory over Portugal in the under-21 European Champions in July. A timeframe on his return is not known.

Ramsey scored his first goal since returning from injury during the 6-1 demolition of Brighton and Hove Albion last weekend but re-aggravated the injury during the win, and subsequently missed his side’s 1-0 victory over HSK Zrinjski in the Europa League last night. Earlier this week, Villa were awaiting for scans to determine the exact issue of the injury.

Villa manager Unai Emery said of the injury on Wednesday: “With Ramsey, we again are trying to check him in because he’s not available for tomorrow (against HSK Zrinjski).

“He had some pains after the match he played on Saturday and after he felt something against Chelsea, and he’s not available for tomorrow.

“We are checking him out. We’re going to wait at the end is the analysis of the doctor about him.”

Villa are next in action against Wolverhampton Wanderers at Molineux on Sunday.

[Risso]

Oh for fucking bollocking sake. If that's another ten weeks, that's a third player who's going to miss a big chunk of the season, and I think Ramsey is almost as important to us in an attacking sense as Mings is defensively. I hope that Monchi is getting ready to go all guns blazing in the January transfer window because whining about January not being the best time isn't going to cut it any more.

[Smithy]

That doesn't sound like a recurrance, as in another "break", but more he's aggravated it.  I don't see how he would have stayed on to the end of the game against Bright if he's actually broken it again.

I'm hoping it's just a case of coming back a bit too soon, and another couple of weeks on the sidelines.  If it's a full break, then someone on the medical staff needs a bollocking, he shouldn't be playing if it's not sufficiently healed.

[chrisw1]

You tend to expect the worst with Villa injuries, but hopefully it will turn out to be more of a side effect after so long out than a re-break.

[pablo_picasso]

Oh for fucking bollocking sake. If that's another ten weeks, that's a third player who's going to miss a big chunk of the season, and I think Ramsey is almost as important to us in an attacking sense as Mings is defensively. I hope that Monchi is getting ready to go all guns blazing in the January transfer window because whining about January not being the best time isn't going to cut it any more.

   

This.

And no more of this "we have to sell our youngsters to balance the FFP books" bollocks either, as our NET spend has been around £38m per season for over a decade.

The couple of years it was higher after we got promoted, is now off the current FFP three year period...

[AV84]

That doesn't sound like a recurrance, as in another "break", but more he's aggravated it.  I don't see how he would have stayed on to the end of the game against Bright if he's actually broken it again.

I could be wrong but didn't he stay on the pitch for a bit in the England game after he hurt it the first time?

Although I do think what Emery said does make it sound like it might not be another break, just a problem with the area.

[pablo_picasso]

That doesn't sound like a recurrance, as in another "break", but more he's aggravated it.  I don't see how he would have stayed on to the end of the game against Bright if he's actually broken it again.

I could be wrong but didn't he stay on the pitch for a bit in the England game after he hurt it the first time?

Although I do think what Emery said does make it sound like it might not be another break, just a problem with the area.

He did.

Cant remember exactly how long for but it was over 5 mins...

[paul_e]

That doesn't sound like a recurrance, as in another "break", but more he's aggravated it.  I don't see how he would have stayed on to the end of the game against Bright if he's actually broken it again.

I could be wrong but didn't he stay on the pitch for a bit in the England game after he hurt it the first time?

Although I do think what Emery said does make it sound like it might not be another break, just a problem with the area.

He did.

Cant remember exactly how long for but it was over 5 mins...

It's not unusual with a broken foot, many people only realise how bad it is when they try to pivot on the foot and get a stab of pain.

[OCD]

Always bemuses me when a broken metatarsal gets referred to as a broken foot.

[PaulTheVillan]

Always bemuses me when a broken metatarsal gets referred to as a broken foot.

When I broke mine I told work I had broke my foot.

[paul_e]

Always bemuses me when a broken metatarsal gets referred to as a broken foot.

It's just easier and most people understand it better, same with arm and leg really.

[pablo_picasso]

Im not a doctor & the only way I can differentiate any bones in the foot is because Beckham broke the Metatarsal before a world cup & the media wouldn't shut the fuck up about it.

But I couldn't tell you the names of most of the bones in my body...

[Brazilian Villain]

It's not unusual with a broken foot, many people only realise how bad it is when they try to pivot on the foot and get a stab of pain.

Yes, when I did mine, I finished the game and went to the doctor the next day.

[Brazilian Villain]

But I couldn't tell you the names of most of the bones in my body...