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Offline paul_e

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1905 on: October 05, 2023, 02:25:53 PM »
I'm not comparing them as players but rather the ability to isolate the full back and create space for Watkins inside or Moreno/Digne outside.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1906 on: October 05, 2023, 03:27:49 PM »
I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

Without knowing exactly what the problem is now it's impossible to call but if it's a different injury then it could be that he's come back when there's still some pain or uncertainty and it's affected his stride which puts pressure on different parts of his foot and has created a new problem. This happens all the time and why you often see people get little niggles when they come back from a bigger injury. I think this is most likely and hopefully it'll only be a couple of weeks out.

If he's reopened the existing break then, as someone said above, that's more likely to be a freak accident, especially at that level I'd be amazed if there weren't x-rays/scans done throughout the injury to make sure it was recovering as expected and he'll only have been allowed back when it was looking good.

Fair point.

I suppose its best to wait for all the available details.

Hopefully, its not too serious.

With him missing, I think it has proven what a key element he is to our way of playing.

Which means that I think we need to be looking at a solid, dependable & similar style footballer to be his backup when we next look at the transfer window.

Same with Moreno.

I think Zaniolo can fill a similar role.

No chance, Ramsey is in a different league in terms of athleticism and presence. Also puts Emery under a bit of pressure to put McGinn back on the left side against better teams to give Digne more support. Didn't work against Liverpool, mind.

We have no cover for McGinn or Ramsey in that box midfield setup. Both perform their roles perfectly. The difference Ramsey made when he came on v Brighton was ridiculous.

Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1907 on: October 05, 2023, 03:57:37 PM »
I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

Without knowing exactly what the problem is now it's impossible to call but if it's a different injury then it could be that he's come back when there's still some pain or uncertainty and it's affected his stride which puts pressure on different parts of his foot and has created a new problem. This happens all the time and why you often see people get little niggles when they come back from a bigger injury. I think this is most likely and hopefully it'll only be a couple of weeks out.

If he's reopened the existing break then, as someone said above, that's more likely to be a freak accident, especially at that level I'd be amazed if there weren't x-rays/scans done throughout the injury to make sure it was recovering as expected and he'll only have been allowed back when it was looking good.

Fair point.

I suppose its best to wait for all the available details.

Hopefully, its not too serious.

With him missing, I think it has proven what a key element he is to our way of playing.

Which means that I think we need to be looking at a solid, dependable & similar style footballer to be his backup when we next look at the transfer window.

Same with Moreno.

I think Zaniolo can fill a similar role.

No chance, Ramsey is in a different league in terms of athleticism and presence. Also puts Emery under a bit of pressure to put McGinn back on the left side against better teams to give Digne more support. Didn't work against Liverpool, mind.

We have no cover for McGinn or Ramsey in that box midfield setup. Both perform their roles perfectly. The difference Ramsey made when he came on v Brighton was ridiculous.

Ramsey is a very special player that doesn’t come around too often, the same as the greasy one, albeit with a different skill set. Again with a different skill set but he’s our equivalent of Bellingham in some ways.

Not just because of my username, but Zaniolo reminds me a little of McInally in terms of his build, running style, tendancy to try and run through players (rather than around them). From memory McInally didnt set the world on fire at first. Although i think Zaniolo has done ok, without being spectacular.

Anyway JJ is a massive loss and hopefully its only in the ball park of what Paul says rather than more serious.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1908 on: October 05, 2023, 04:01:46 PM »
I reckon Zaniolo needs to get a goal under his belt.

Seems like the sort of player that once that's done, he'll relax a bit and just play.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1909 on: October 05, 2023, 05:01:51 PM »
His ability to carry the ball complements our other midfield strengths.
We are a much better team with him.

Offline malckennedy

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1910 on: October 05, 2023, 05:25:57 PM »
I'm hoping Zaniolo finds his form soon if he is to find it. But so far he's been a huge disappointment to me. I don't see him carrying the ball at all, I see him being constantly dispossessed.

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1911 on: October 05, 2023, 05:40:43 PM »
Really? He’s been here five minutes and has adjusted rather well. Ok he’s not set the world on fire but you can tell he’s an exciting, talented and strong player.

Offline eamonn

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1912 on: October 05, 2023, 05:41:44 PM »
He lost the ball nearly every time he received it against Brighton. Undoubted talent but still looks way off the pace.

Offline malckennedy

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1913 on: October 05, 2023, 05:51:18 PM »
He lost the ball nearly every time he received it against Brighton. Undoubted talent but still looks way off the pace.

He did indeed. The decision to replace him with Ramsey was very astute and enabled us to get over the only shaky period we had at the beginning of the second half.

Offline DrGonzo

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1914 on: October 05, 2023, 06:37:58 PM »
I bet he's available for Sunday and you lot are going to look like a bunch of lilly-livered pants wetters.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1915 on: October 05, 2023, 07:08:45 PM »
I bet he's available for Sunday and you lot are going to look like a bunch of lilly-livered pants wetters.

Hopefully... 😁

Offline Beard82

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1916 on: October 05, 2023, 07:10:24 PM »
I bet he's available for Sunday and you lot are going to look like a bunch of lilly-livered pants wetters.

Hopefully... 😁
I have more chance in being in the squad for Sunday than he does

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1917 on: October 05, 2023, 07:25:04 PM »
I reckon Zaniolo needs to get a goal under his belt.

Seems like the sort of player that once that's done, he'll relax a bit and just play.

Totally agree, you can see it in him.

I reckon he'll score a massive shitpinger and it'll be great from there.

Offline paul_e

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1918 on: October 05, 2023, 08:56:26 PM »
I reckon Zaniolo needs to get a goal under his belt.

Seems like the sort of player that once that's done, he'll relax a bit and just play.

Totally agree, you can see it in him.

I reckon he'll score a massive shitpinger and it'll be great from there.

He desperately needs to get one, you can see he's trying too hard to get something.

Offline Villan82

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Re: Jacob Ramsey
« Reply #1919 on: October 05, 2023, 08:56:38 PM »
We really miss JJ when he's out. The left just isn't the same when he's out.

 


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