Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[Risso]

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Southgate was going to call him up to the England squad but Emery didn't wants him to have the international break off, so he's on the injured list until the squad is announced and he's back in for Wolves.

I'd love that to be the case. I think it's far more likely that the bones in his foot all now resemble a bag of Nik Naks that have been run over by an HGV though.

[ozzjim]

Yeah from rumours I've heard he's broken it again. I just hope it's not the same bone. Rediculous luck with injuries this season, and left ourselves a Ramsey type attaching mid/ forward light in the window which is hurting now.

[Dave]

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Southgate was going to call him up to the England squad but Emery didn't wants him to have the international break off, so he's on the injured list until the squad is announced and he's back in for Wolves.

I'd love that to be the case. I think it's far more likely that the bones in his foot all now resemble a bag of Nik Naks that have been run over by an HGV though.

Also pretty sure that if he were fine, then Ramsey himself probably wouldn't want his first England call-up to be nixed for no good reason.

[LeeB]

For fuck's sake lads, that theory was giving me hope.

[Somniloquism]

Get Cole in as he needs an injury soon.

[pablo_picasso]

I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

[paul_e]

I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

Without knowing exactly what the problem is now it's impossible to call but if it's a different injury then it could be that he's come back when there's still some pain or uncertainty and it's affected his stride which puts pressure on different parts of his foot and has created a new problem. This happens all the time and why you often see people get little niggles when they come back from a bigger injury. I think this is most likely and hopefully it'll only be a couple of weeks out.

If he's reopened the existing break then, as someone said above, that's more likely to be a freak accident, especially at that level I'd be amazed if there weren't x-rays/scans done throughout the injury to make sure it was recovering as expected and he'll only have been allowed back when it was looking good.

[AV84]

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Southgate was going to call him up to the England squad but Emery didn't wants him to have the international break off, so he's on the injured list until the squad is announced and he's back in for Wolves.

I'd love that to be the case. I think it's far more likely that the bones in his foot all now resemble a bag of Nik Naks that have been run over by an HGV though.

Also pretty sure that if he were fine, then Ramsey himself probably wouldn't want his first England call-up to be nixed for no good reason.

I was working on the theory that he wasn't going to play for England, but have to do the extra training for nothing, and also he and Emery are in cahoots on the whole thing.

[Dave]

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Southgate was going to call him up to the England squad but Emery didn't wants him to have the international break off, so he's on the injured list until the squad is announced and he's back in for Wolves.

I'd love that to be the case. I think it's far more likely that the bones in his foot all now resemble a bag of Nik Naks that have been run over by an HGV though.

Also pretty sure that if he were fine, then Ramsey himself probably wouldn't want his first England call-up to be nixed for no good reason.

I was working on the theory that he wasn't going to play for England, but have to do the extra training for nothing, and also he and Emery are in cahoots on the whole thing.

I'm still pretty confident that if he'd been told that he'd been selected for the England senior squad for the first time, he'd be pretty excited and want to go.

[pablo_picasso]

I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

Without knowing exactly what the problem is now it's impossible to call but if it's a different injury then it could be that he's come back when there's still some pain or uncertainty and it's affected his stride which puts pressure on different parts of his foot and has created a new problem. This happens all the time and why you often see people get little niggles when they come back from a bigger injury. I think this is most likely and hopefully it'll only be a couple of weeks out.

If he's reopened the existing break then, as someone said above, that's more likely to be a freak accident, especially at that level I'd be amazed if there weren't x-rays/scans done throughout the injury to make sure it was recovering as expected and he'll only have been allowed back when it was looking good.

Fair point.

I suppose its best to wait for all the available details.

Hopefully, its not too serious.

With him missing, I think it has proven what a key element he is to our way of playing.

Which means that I think we need to be looking at a solid, dependable & similar style footballer to be his backup when we next look at the transfer window.

Same with Moreno.

[AV84]

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Southgate was going to call him up to the England squad but Emery didn't wants him to have the international break off, so he's on the injured list until the squad is announced and he's back in for Wolves.

I'd love that to be the case. I think it's far more likely that the bones in his foot all now resemble a bag of Nik Naks that have been run over by an HGV though.

Also pretty sure that if he were fine, then Ramsey himself probably wouldn't want his first England call-up to be nixed for no good reason.

I was working on the theory that he wasn't going to play for England, but have to do the extra training for nothing, and also he and Emery are in cahoots on the whole thing.

I'm still pretty confident that if he'd been told that he'd been selected for the England senior squad for the first time, he'd be pretty excited and want to go.

I'm pretty confident you're taking it a bit too seriously.

[Dave]

Here's a conspiracy theory for you. Southgate was going to call him up to the England squad but Emery didn't wants him to have the international break off, so he's on the injured list until the squad is announced and he's back in for Wolves.

I'd love that to be the case. I think it's far more likely that the bones in his foot all now resemble a bag of Nik Naks that have been run over by an HGV though.

Also pretty sure that if he were fine, then Ramsey himself probably wouldn't want his first England call-up to be nixed for no good reason.

I was working on the theory that he wasn't going to play for England, but have to do the extra training for nothing, and also he and Emery are in cahoots on the whole thing.

I'm still pretty confident that if he'd been told that he'd been selected for the England senior squad for the first time, he'd be pretty excited and want to go.

I'm pretty confident you're taking it a bit too seriously.

Nah, that doesn't sound like me.

[paul_e]

I wonder if he was brought back a little too early.

This is all down to international football.

That little Portuguese shit who broke Ramseys foot didn't even get a yellow & our club suffers for months...

Without knowing exactly what the problem is now it's impossible to call but if it's a different injury then it could be that he's come back when there's still some pain or uncertainty and it's affected his stride which puts pressure on different parts of his foot and has created a new problem. This happens all the time and why you often see people get little niggles when they come back from a bigger injury. I think this is most likely and hopefully it'll only be a couple of weeks out.

If he's reopened the existing break then, as someone said above, that's more likely to be a freak accident, especially at that level I'd be amazed if there weren't x-rays/scans done throughout the injury to make sure it was recovering as expected and he'll only have been allowed back when it was looking good.

Fair point.

I suppose its best to wait for all the available details.

Hopefully, its not too serious.

With him missing, I think it has proven what a key element he is to our way of playing.

Which means that I think we need to be looking at a solid, dependable & similar style footballer to be his backup when we next look at the transfer window.

Same with Moreno.

I think Zaniolo can fill a similar role.

[Risso]

It's early days for Zaniolo, but I think he's miles away from being anywhere near as good as Ramsey, especially on the left side which obviously is Ramsey's preferred flank. Ramsey gives us pace, power, goal threat and the ability to stretch teams. I'm not seeing that from Zaniolo yet. He doesn't look anywhere near as quick as Ramsey for a start. I like Zaniolo and think he'll be useful in his own way, but not as a direct like-for-like replacement.

[PaulWinch again]

I think they’re completely different players