Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[OCD]

After winning a Premier League award, it would have been odd if he hadn't won our YPotY.

[Dogtanian]

It's funny how all the other winners of that Premier League award had England call ups...

• May 2020 Rashford - first called up May 2016.
• May 2021 Mount - first called up Oct 2018.
• May 2022 Sako - first called up Oct 2020.
• May 2023 Ramsey - left in the U21s.

 

[Smithy]

In fairness all his competition are out on-loan. Would have been awks to give it to one of them due to JJ being under-whelming.

The only other player under 25 in our regular first-team squad is Bouba (23). Who probably would have won it if he'd stayed fit all season.  Not to say JJ hasn't been good, he has, but the competition for this award was pretty slim.

[OCD]

Is 23 still young enough to be in contention for YPotY?

[LeeB]

Is 23 still young enough to be in contention for YPotY?

They were laughing on the Villa podcast at how Odegaard is in the Premier League young player nominations when he's 24, captain of Arsenal and made his debut for Norway 9 years ago.

[eamonn]

I always thought 23 was the cut-off. After that you're mid-twenties which is not young by professional football standards.

[LeeB]

I always thought 23 was the cut-off. After that you're mid-twenties which is not young by professional football standards.

It is, but from the start of the season. It's the same with the u21 tournaments, it's what age you are when the qualifying starts, so by the time the tournament comes around you've got 23 year olds playing.

[paul_e]

I always thought 23 was the cut-off. After that you're mid-twenties which is not young by professional football standards.

It is, but from the start of the season. It's the same with the u21 tournaments, it's what age you are when the qualifying starts, so by the time the tournament comes around you've got 23 year olds playing.

For tournaments it makes sense, the alternative is having the team that qualifies potentially be completely different to the one that plays in the tournament.

[LeeB]

It does mate, but the award is an absolute joke, it should be for emerging players not bloody seasoned players with 49 caps.

[paul_e]

It does mate, but the award is an absolute joke, it should be for emerging players not bloody seasoned players with 49 caps.

I agree, should've made that clearer. 23 at the start of the season made sense when the reserve league was U23, now it's U21 it should be changed to match. That way the focus is on players who are too good to play in their own age group.

[OCD]

With the U21's league, you used to still be able to play over-aged players. I don't think that's changed.

[Drummond]

It does mate, but the award is an absolute joke, it should be for emerging players not bloody seasoned players with 49 caps.

I agree, I'd say the rules should be something like:

Under 23.
Less than 10 Premier League appearances per season previously
Over 20 appearances in the current season.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

He deserves the Young Player Of The Year award he's been brilliant this season.

Sorry Daz but he's only started to show his previous form in the last few months. I've said before Gerrard brought him back way too early and tried to play him in for fitness. It didn't really work out but these last few months he's looked great, driving forward and full of confidence. Again, I'm predicting he'll kick on and have a massive season in 2023/24.

[paul_e]

With the U21's league, you used to still be able to play over-aged players. I don't think that's changed.

Yes, but there are limits to it, because that league is designed to transition academy players to senior football.

It does mate, but the award is an absolute joke, it should be for emerging players not bloody seasoned players with 49 caps.

I agree, I'd say the rules should be something like:

Under 23.
Less than 10 Premier League appearances per season previously
Over 20 appearances in the current season.

First and last seem sensible but I'd be rework that 10 qames per season bit. For example Ramsey had 22 appearances in 20/21 but only 6 starts. That's not enough for him to be in the mix for that year but would make him ineligible in his first season as a 'real' member of the first team squad. maybe 10 starts would make more sense so players can have that sort of finding their feet season that is so important for young players.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Last weekend Ramsey made his 100th appearance for Villa. He's hardly breaking through.