Jacob Ramsey - Gone

[paul_e]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, we're going to finish this season with about 50 goals, and that's including an awful start to the season. I'll be happy if we score 60 next season and if we aldo keep the solid defence we've established in the last few months then I think we'll be right in the mix for the top 4.

Also 4 players scoring 10 goals each is just as good as 1 player getting 25 and the others getting 5 each (and it's harder to plan tactics against a team that has more players who can score). That's why I always try to break goals down by units more than by players.

Where I'm most disappointed this season is the lack of goals from defence, 3 all season just isn't good enough for this squad.

[Risso]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, we're going to finish this season with about 50 goals, and that's including an awful start to the season. I'll be happy if we score 60 next season and if we aldo keep the solid defence we've established in the last few months then I think we'll be right in the mix for the top 4.

Also 4 players scoring 10 goals each is just as good as 1 player getting 25 and the others getting 5 each (and it's harder to plan tactics against a team that has more players who can score). That's why I always try to break goals down by units more than by players.

Where I'm most disappointed this season is the lack of goals from defence, 3 all season just isn't good enough for this squad.

Especially when you've got someone as good at getting forward as Moreno is, and with the aerial ability of Mings.

[paul_e]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, we're going to finish this season with about 50 goals, and that's including an awful start to the season. I'll be happy if we score 60 next season and if we aldo keep the solid defence we've established in the last few months then I think we'll be right in the mix for the top 4.

Also 4 players scoring 10 goals each is just as good as 1 player getting 25 and the others getting 5 each (and it's harder to plan tactics against a team that has more players who can score). That's why I always try to break goals down by units more than by players.

Where I'm most disappointed this season is the lack of goals from defence, 3 all season just isn't good enough for this squad.

Especially when you've got someone as good at getting forward as Moreno is, and with the aerial ability of Mings.

Cash as well, 3 each for those 3 doesn't seem unfair.

[edgysatsuma89]

Man City have only had 3 goals from defenders in the league this season. I think if you get to 9 from defence you have had a good season.

[paul_e]

Man City have only had 3 goals from defenders in the league this season. I think if you get to 9 from defence you have had a good season.

I'd normally say 5-6 fort he entire defence would be decent but I think Mings, Moreno and Cash are all capable of adding more and some of our set piece delivery is absolutely top draw and we probably haven't scored as many as we should've from them.

I can think of 2 chances Mings should've taken this year and 1 for Konsa. Moreno will score a few next year and is pretty unlucky not to have one already and Cash got 4 last year and, if he plays, I don't see why he can't do similar.

[Drummond]

Even if they aren't scoring, we should have a bunch of assists from the full backs, especially given how advanced one of ours invariably is.

[not3bad]

Congratulations to Jacob Ramsey who has won the Premier League’s 2022/23 Academy Graduate Award:
https://www.avfc.co.uk/news/2023/may/23/ramsey-wins-premier-league-academy-graduate-award/

[LeeB]

Well deserved

[paul_e]

Yep, he's had a very good season, even if he hasn't kicked on quite as much as we hoped, I think he'll take another massive step forward next season and will be part of the England squad for the Euros.

[Edvard Remberg]

Is that like the "Young player of the year" ?

[Mister E]

Is that like the "Young player of the year" ?

As described on Pravda: "Jacob Ramsey has been recognised with the Premier League’s 2022/23 Academy Graduate Award. The Aston Villa midfielder was named as this year’s winner at the annual Premier League Youth Development Conference on Monday night.
The award was created to honour players who have made the successful transition from Academy to the Premier League, while - off the pitch - also acting as inspirational role models for future generations to come.
Ramsey becomes the latest in a line of talented youngsters to claim the award, following the likes of Bukayo Saka, Mason Mount, Marcus Rashford and Trent Alexander-Arnold."

[algy]

It can't be 'typical' to score that many goals across all positions in the team. Of course it depends on what formation you play too....

4-3-3 110 Goals (or 90 if you say the wide players are midfielders)
4-4-2 100 Goals
4-5-1 90 Goals
3-5-2 105 Goals

Goals for this season, for the Top 4.
93,83, 67, 52
Last
99, 94, 76, 69
then
83, 73, 68, 58
85, 102, 66, 69
95, 89, 63, 67
106, 68, 74, 84
85, 86, 80, 78

So it doesn't take that many goals to win the league. There are occasional stand-out seasons where a team scores a lot but even then, it probably didn't need that many to win it. I could produce the Goal Difference or Goals Against stats too, which of course will contextualise things. If you've a solid defence you don't need a load of goals.

Well, the team that wins the title has at least 83 according to the list you've given - 90 would win you the title about half the time - and 100 would win you the title in anything except a freak season. (Obvs it's done on points rather than goals, but there's only 2 instances where the side that wins the title isn't also the one that's scored the most goals ... and one of those there's literally 1 goal in it.

Not sure anyone is saying that you'd ever expect players to get 90+ goals a season, but I'd be inclined to say that it has to be the market you're shopping in if you've aspirations on winning the league with that set of players.

"Typical" is definitely the wrong word to use there, I'm just saying that I kind of agree with saddvillan that - assuming Emery has been bought in with the idea that he's going to move us in to Sky 6 territory - then players that don't meet those figures are going to probably end up in that 'upgradable' section in the next few seasons.

[Dave]

Club Young Player of the Year.

[darren woolley]

He deserves the Young Player Of The Year award he's been brilliant this season.

[eamonn]

In fairness all his competition are out on-loan. Would have been awks to give it to one of them due to JJ being under-whelming.