Quote from: London Villan on February 13, 2023, 06:11:35 AMThere isnt a place for ramsey in this system.Is the correct answer for me...another reason to get rid of it.
There isnt a place for ramsey in this system.
It'll be interesting to see whether Emery intends to just stick with 4-2-2-2 or whether he starts to bring in 4-2-3-1. Ramsey might better suit 4-2-3-1.
Quote from: OCD on February 13, 2023, 10:51:40 AMIt'll be interesting to see whether Emery intends to just stick with 4-2-2-2 or whether he starts to bring in 4-2-3-1. Ramsey might better suit 4-2-3-1.That's the way I see it, not just Ramsey. 4231 would enable us to play Buendia or Coutinho in their correct position at 10 too. McGinn would be fine on the right. Ramsey needs to do a lot more in and out of possession though, regardless of formation. Rarely does he ever win a tackle or header.
Quote from: brontebilly on February 13, 2023, 10:57:23 AMQuote from: OCD on February 13, 2023, 10:51:40 AMIt'll be interesting to see whether Emery intends to just stick with 4-2-2-2 or whether he starts to bring in 4-2-3-1. Ramsey might better suit 4-2-3-1.That's the way I see it, not just Ramsey. 4231 would enable us to play Buendia or Coutinho in their correct position at 10 too. McGinn would be fine on the right. Ramsey needs to do a lot more in and out of possession though, regardless of formation. Rarely does he ever win a tackle or header. I don't know why he doesn't try it. I've just made the point elsewhere that two of the players in Ramsey and Bailey just aren't working in the 4-4-2, and Buendia is either either good or completely anonymous. I know he's having to shoehorn players in, but it seems to me that 4-2-3-1 would suit what we have much better than the system he's trying, either 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2. You'd have Watkins up front on his own, with a choice of Buendia and Coutinho on the left of an attacking three, McGinn or Ramsey in the middle of the three, and either Bailey or Traore on the right. Ramsey's not a winger, and Bailey's not a forward, and neither of them are showing any sort of improvement, no matter how much faith he puts in them.
Quote from: Risso on February 13, 2023, 11:28:20 AMQuote from: brontebilly on February 13, 2023, 10:57:23 AMQuote from: OCD on February 13, 2023, 10:51:40 AMIt'll be interesting to see whether Emery intends to just stick with 4-2-2-2 or whether he starts to bring in 4-2-3-1. Ramsey might better suit 4-2-3-1.That's the way I see it, not just Ramsey. 4231 would enable us to play Buendia or Coutinho in their correct position at 10 too. McGinn would be fine on the right. Ramsey needs to do a lot more in and out of possession though, regardless of formation. Rarely does he ever win a tackle or header. I don't know why he doesn't try it. I've just made the point elsewhere that two of the players in Ramsey and Bailey just aren't working in the 4-4-2, and Buendia is either either good or completely anonymous. I know he's having to shoehorn players in, but it seems to me that 4-2-3-1 would suit what we have much better than the system he's trying, either 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2. You'd have Watkins up front on his own, with a choice of Buendia and Coutinho on the left of an attacking three, McGinn or Ramsey in the middle of the three, and either Bailey or Traore on the right. Ramsey's not a winger, and Bailey's not a forward, and neither of them are showing any sort of improvement, no matter how much faith he puts in them.Managerial stubbornness I'm afraid, we have seen it before. Moreno will give us more options going forward too. At least he has the pace to get back unlike Digne. Ideal time to try 4231 v Arsenal. McGinn/Buendia/Ramsey or some variation of it. Plenty of options in those areas now with Coutinho, Duran, Bailey and even Traore. Get Ramsey helping Watkins press from the front and breaking on the counter attack (like v City earlier in the season) and we will see a better player.
Ramsey won't be sold, he's our poster boy until Archer comes food.
Quote from: eamonn on February 13, 2023, 12:58:55 PMRamsey won't be sold, he's our poster boy until Archer comes food.Ah, he'll be sharing his porridge soon enough.
Quote from: brontebilly on February 13, 2023, 12:14:00 PMQuote from: Risso on February 13, 2023, 11:28:20 AMQuote from: brontebilly on February 13, 2023, 10:57:23 AMQuote from: OCD on February 13, 2023, 10:51:40 AMIt'll be interesting to see whether Emery intends to just stick with 4-2-2-2 or whether he starts to bring in 4-2-3-1. Ramsey might better suit 4-2-3-1.That's the way I see it, not just Ramsey. 4231 would enable us to play Buendia or Coutinho in their correct position at 10 too. McGinn would be fine on the right. Ramsey needs to do a lot more in and out of possession though, regardless of formation. Rarely does he ever win a tackle or header. I don't know why he doesn't try it. I've just made the point elsewhere that two of the players in Ramsey and Bailey just aren't working in the 4-4-2, and Buendia is either either good or completely anonymous. I know he's having to shoehorn players in, but it seems to me that 4-2-3-1 would suit what we have much better than the system he's trying, either 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2. You'd have Watkins up front on his own, with a choice of Buendia and Coutinho on the left of an attacking three, McGinn or Ramsey in the middle of the three, and either Bailey or Traore on the right. Ramsey's not a winger, and Bailey's not a forward, and neither of them are showing any sort of improvement, no matter how much faith he puts in them.Managerial stubbornness I'm afraid, we have seen it before. Moreno will give us more options going forward too. At least he has the pace to get back unlike Digne. Ideal time to try 4231 v Arsenal. McGinn/Buendia/Ramsey or some variation of it. Plenty of options in those areas now with Coutinho, Duran, Bailey and even Traore. Get Ramsey helping Watkins press from the front and breaking on the counter attack (like v City earlier in the season) and we will see a better player. Managerial stubbornness is one way of looking at it, another is asking players to buy into his methods. It appears to be working for some but those that can’t adapt when given the chance will, you would imagine, find themselves being replaced.