Tyrone Mings

[Dave]

Technically the ref should have booked him

I dunno about that. There's no automatic yellow card for deliberate handball, it falls under "unsporting behaviour".

One of the many examples of what that might be is (the player) "handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack", which you could argue he technically did do. But I think it would be have unnecessarily harsh in the circumstances to describe his actions as "unsporting behaviour".

[Drummond]

He'd have played the ball unchallenged if he hadn't been injured. Therefore he wasn't interfering with play, and a booking would have been farcical.

I don't think it's at all fair to judge him on his actions; he's been through an horrendous time, was clearly shitting himself, and made the call that was necessary. He gets my full support.

[OCD]

I don't think it's case of not supporting him. I wasn't impressed with the ref and not booking him was the best thing he did all game.

[eamonn]

He gets plenty of support. We need one or two centre backs better than what we have to help us climb though. Konsa, Mings and Torres all have their limitations.

[danno]

From the club point of view it might not be great, in that that is entirely possible. I’m just glad for him it’s not a major set back.

I'm missing some context here. What is it that might not be great?  And what is entirely possible?

[PaulWinch again]

From the club point of view it might not be great, in that that is entirely possible. I’m just glad for him it’s not a major set back.

I'm missing some context here. What is it that might not be great?  And what is entirely possible?

As in if he were out for say 4 weeks that’s still pretty bad for the club because we’re so short (as of now). But from his context (and ultimately the club’s obviously) it initially looked dreadful and long-term. It’s more short-term needs of the club I’m referring to.

[AGRIPPA]

Any updates on him..??

[Somniloquism]

Probably won't hear too much until the Tuesday press conference.

[JUAN PABLO]

Emery said its up to TY how he feels after training for Celtic

[JUAN PABLO]

Unai Emery said: "We will see this afternoon and then we are going to decide how every player is feeling. We have Lamare Bogarde in the squad as well, he is training every day and competing very well. Sil [Swinkels] is another option because he is training with us, but we are thinking of letting him leave on loan. I think he will need more experience to get minutes.

"We have enough players to compete and feel confidence. For example, Lucas Digne is left-footed and is an experienced player. He can feel confident [playing at centre-back]. Firstly, if Tyrone Mings is available then he could play, but if not, Bogarde - who has usually played in midfield - he is training sometimes as a centre-back. I am confident and I believe in the squad we have.

[paul_e]

Technically the ref should have booked him

I dunno about that. There's no automatic yellow card for deliberate handball, it falls under "unsporting behaviour".

One of the many examples of what that might be is (the player) "handles the ball to interfere with or stop a promising attack", which you could argue he technically did do. But I think it would be have unnecessarily harsh in the circumstances to describe his actions as "unsporting behaviour".

Agreed but this comes back to the point that most people seem to have forgotten what the point of yellow cards is, so seeing 7-8 per game is considered perfectly normal. There is never any need to book players for things like this but I reckon it's at least 50/50 if a ref would've gone to the pocket as Mings was being treated.

[Dave]

Oh indeed, he couldn't have really complained if he'd seen a yellow. Just that it's one of those where there isn't a "technically the referee should have done such-and-such".

A booking would have been understandable, just as no booking also is.

[Gareth]

He gets plenty of support. We need one or two centre backs better than what we have to help us climb though. Konsa, Mings and Torres all have their limitations.

Most centre backs do have limitations…if you take out Gabriel, Saliba, Van Dijk and maybe Diaz there are no better centre halves than we have…there are probably 15/20 who are very similar then obviously the likes of Bednarek stinking the league out.

A lot of limitations though are down to the way we play…I’m all for keeping the ball but it seems we have really gone down the warren that clearing a ball into touch or down the pitch when under extreme pressure to allow a reset is almost forbidden…

When all fit id still like to see us try 3 centre halves occasionally (not all the time!)…Konsa right, Torres left and Mings in the centre…gives physicality, organisation and distribution & at least one player to attack the ball when we defend corners.  This time last year changing formation would have seemed unthinkable but we are nowhere near as creative whilst opponents have started to respect us and sit behind the ball a lot more. 

[ChicagoLion]

He gets plenty of support. We need one or two centre backs better than what we have to help us climb though. Konsa, Mings and Torres all have their limitations.

Most centre backs do have limitations…if you take out Gabriel, Saliba, Van Dijk and maybe Diaz there are no better centre halves than we have…there are probably 15/20 who are very similar then obviously the likes of Bednarek stinking the league out.

A lot of limitations though are down to the way we play…I’m all for keeping the ball but it seems we have really gone down the warren that clearing a ball into touch or down the pitch when under extreme pressure to allow a reset is almost forbidden…

When all fit id still like to see us try 3 centre halves occasionally (not all the time!)…Konsa right, Torres left and Mings in the centre…gives physicality, organisation and distribution & at least one player to attack the ball when we defend corners.  This time last year changing formation would have seemed unthinkable but we are nowhere near as creative whilst opponents have started to respect us and sit behind the ball a lot more.

It is very hard to switch systems from game to game and if you add form, fatigue and injuries almost impossible.

[Gareth]

He gets plenty of support. We need one or two centre backs better than what we have to help us climb though. Konsa, Mings and Torres all have their limitations.

Most centre backs do have limitations…if you take out Gabriel, Saliba, Van Dijk and maybe Diaz there are no better centre halves than we have…there are probably 15/20 who are very similar then obviously the likes of Bednarek stinking the league out.

A lot of limitations though are down to the way we play…I’m all for keeping the ball but it seems we have really gone down the warren that clearing a ball into touch or down the pitch when under extreme pressure to allow a reset is almost forbidden…

When all fit id still like to see us try 3 centre halves occasionally (not all the time!)…Konsa right, Torres left and Mings in the centre…gives physicality, organisation and distribution & at least one player to attack the ball when we defend corners.  This time last year changing formation would have seemed unthinkable but we are nowhere near as creative whilst opponents have started to respect us and sit behind the ball a lot more.

It is very hard to switch systems from game to game and if you add form, fatigue and injuries almost impossible.

I’d disagree on that one slightly…form, fatigue and injuries are massive but I’m not sure formation changes have that huge of an effect on any of those…admittedly playing twice a week doesn’t allow for a lot of time on the training pitch to work on it particularly when 8/9 of the team play pretty much every game