Tyrone Mings

[JUAN PABLO]

Great return by Ty! Not sure why there is such a felt need by some to include Torres in the team. He is a bang average defender and, frankly, Mings put a ball over the top that was as nice as anything I have seen from Torres. Torres is a nice backup.

Almost like people disagree with you, incredible though I'm sure it sounds.

Mings is good on the ball, Torres is better.

Torres is a good defender, Mings is better.

It's a completely sensible opinion.

spot on Monty.

shame we cant mold them together.   Be a 100 million pound defender all day.

[pauliewalnuts]

Great return by Ty! Not sure why there is such a felt need by some to include Torres in the team. He is a bang average defender and, frankly, Mings put a ball over the top that was as nice as anything I have seen from Torres. Torres is a nice backup.

Almost like people disagree with you, incredible though I'm sure it sounds.

Mings is good on the ball, Torres is better.

Torres is a good defender, Mings is better.

It's a completely sensible opinion.

It does irk me that people seem to view it as a zero sum game, like now we have Ty back we must banish Torres to St Helena or something.

I think a part of it is like how we refer to 'starters' when discussing the squad when, actually, it's a long, tough season, we're going to need more than 11 players capable of performing at the top level in the big competitions.

[JUAN PABLO]

Unai might start Torres home to Soton and rest big Ty and play the Red Bull game.

[PeterWithe]

I thought he was ok, adequate, won a few aerial duels perhaps Pau wouldn't, didn't look as calm on the ball.

Pretty much as expected.

[Monty]

Great return by Ty! Not sure why there is such a felt need by some to include Torres in the team. He is a bang average defender and, frankly, Mings put a ball over the top that was as nice as anything I have seen from Torres. Torres is a nice backup.

Almost like people disagree with you, incredible though I'm sure it sounds.

Mings is good on the ball, Torres is better.

Torres is a good defender, Mings is better.

It's a completely sensible opinion.

It does irk me that people seem to view it as a zero sum game, like now we have Ty back we must banish Torres to St Helena or something.

I think a part of it is like how we refer to 'starters' when discussing the squad when, actually, it's a long, tough season, we're going to need more than 11 players capable of performing at the top level in the big competitions.

Exactly. We complain for years about squad depth, and now we're obsessed about the the starting eleven. Almost like we're a bunch of mouthbreathing malcontents.

[paul_e]

I thought he was ok, adequate, won a few aerial duels perhaps Pau wouldn't, didn't look as calm on the ball.

Pretty much as expected.

The thing Mings adds that you've missed is the leadership and organisation that we really need when teams start to build some pressure.

[LeeB]

It's just great that he's actually, properly back.

[pelty]

Great return by Ty! Not sure why there is such a felt need by some to include Torres in the team. He is a bang average defender and, frankly, Mings put a ball over the top that was as nice as anything I have seen from Torres. Torres is a nice backup.

Almost like people disagree with you, incredible though I'm sure it sounds.

Mings is good on the ball, Torres is better.

Torres is a good defender, Mings is better.

It's a completely sensible opinion.

Not sure why you feel the need to be snide, but whatever. People are welcome to disagree, and I am more than welcome to wonder why they prefer one player to another. This is, after all, the purpose of forums such as this, no?

It is a sensible opinion; no one claimed otherwise, but if the idea is to stop shipping goals, I prefer the one who defends well, does not get beat for pace as regularly, and is harder to muscle off the ball which, from my perspective, also is a sensible opinion.

[Monty]

'Not sure why there is such a need felt by some' not being snide at all!

Anyway, have your opinion. I absolutely love Mings. Not sure why there's such a need felt by some to bury the mainstay central defender for the year we finished fourth. Personally, I like that we have both the England international and the Spain international.

[Chris Smith]

Great to see him back, he adds so much in terms of leadership and personality and after recent weeks it was exactly what was required. I am sure his involvements will be managed but having reliable options is essential given the number of games coming up.

[kipeye]

Great to see him back. Hopefully, he will get stronger still.

[BC Villain]

Another punditry masterclass from Eni Aluko last night I notice.

“Mings and Konsa’s partnership was crucial to their successful season last year.”

[Flamingo Lane]

Another punditry masterclass from Eni Aluko last night I notice.

“Mings and Konsa’s partnership was crucial to their successful season last year.”

Trying to be fair, that was certainly true of the season we qualified for the Conference, which in some ways feels more like last season than last season does. If that makes sense.

[simon ward 50]

Play Ty Saturday but rest him against RB surely?

[Risso]

Another punditry masterclass from Eni Aluko last night I notice.

“Mings and Konsa’s partnership was crucial to their successful season last year.”

And then interviewing Emery: "how pleased were you that Watkins scored the penalty?". Devastated I imagine, managers absolutely hate it when their players score a goal.

She's easily the worst pundit there's even been, who on earth watches her performances back and decides to keep employing her?