Tyrone Mings

[FatSam]

I think it was definitely a case of him picking a fight with the incredibly popular club captain to try to stamp his authority on the club, particularly given he had a pretty lukewarm reception.

I’d agree with that - I think any suggestion of racism is stretching it to the extreme.

[brontebilly]

I honestly think in a few years time we'll look back and realise he's been one of our most important signings in the last 30 years.  He's been absolutely instrumental in getting us from one of our lowest ebbs to the fringes of European qualification.  I'd say probably after Jack our he's been our single most important player in that period.  A talisman.  Awesome.

Without doubt I'd say he is already the most important signing we have made in the last 30 years.  After we'd been left with one fit CB by Potato Head and were probably drifting towards another season in the Championship it was Mings signing that changed things.  We almost certainly wouldn't have been promoted without him, and would be nowhere near where we are now.

Of all the crap we put up with from Gerrard, his treatment of Mings was the most unforgivable for me and why I love to imagine what Steven Me is thinking as he watches Mings playing the best football of his life under one of the best managers world football.

It marked his card for me. If nothing else it smacked of a rookie trying to force his authority and in reality just creating unnecessary problems for himself. Our kid said the other day he wondered if there was a race element to it

That's not on (last sentence)..Gerrard was guilty of a lot of things but not that. I'd agree on the rookie manager trying to force his authority on his captain, guilty of listening too much to the likes of Souness, Keane etc. Perhaps something went down on the summer tour too, right from the Bournemouth game something just seemed off with the players and really Gerrard should have been let go after the diabolical defeat at Palace soon after.

Maybe Carlos was going to be the next Maldini in terms of playing out from the back but Gerrard completely mismanaged that situation with a very popular player. I think he was on borrowed time really from that.

[VILLA MOLE]

https://theathletic.com/3491652/2022/08/10/tyrone-mings-steven-gerrard-aston-villa-captaincy/?amp=1


Thought i would go back and found this

[Sexual Ealing]

Interview with the great man here (from around 20 mins in): https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/michael-calvins-football-people/id1090909834

[RamboandBruno]

I honestly think in a few years time we'll look back and realise he's been one of our most important signings in the last 30 years.  He's been absolutely instrumental in getting us from one of our lowest ebbs to the fringes of European qualification.  I'd say probably after Jack our he's been our single most important player in that period.  A talisman.  Awesome.

Without doubt I'd say he is already the most important signing we have made in the last 30 years.  After we'd been left with one fit CB by Potato Head and were probably drifting towards another season in the Championship it was Mings signing that changed things.  We almost certainly wouldn't have been promoted without him, and would be nowhere near where we are now.

Of all the crap we put up with from Gerrard, his treatment of Mings was the most unforgivable for me and why I love to imagine what Steven Me is thinking as he watches Mings playing the best football of his life under one of the best managers world football.

It marked his card for me. If nothing else it smacked of a rookie trying to force his authority and in reality just creating unnecessary problems for himself. Our kid said the other day he wondered if there was a race element to it

That's not on (last sentence)..Gerrard was guilty of a lot of things but not that. I'd agree on the rookie manager trying to force his authority on his captain, guilty of listening too much to the likes of Souness, Keane etc. Perhaps something went down on the summer tour too, right from the Bournemouth game something just seemed off with the players and really Gerrard should have been let go after the diabolical defeat at Palace soon after.

Maybe Carlos was going to be the next Maldini in terms of playing out from the back but Gerrard completely mismanaged that situation with a very popular player. I think he was on borrowed time really from that.

Ive known someone a very long time, who through work knows someone who in turn knows Gerard…..I know how this sounds…

Anyway, this ITK (or not) said Gerard has admitted to those he knows, he massively f**ked up at Villa. His idea was to break certain players down and then try to and build them back up and mould them into what he wanted. Apparently he didn’t appreciate how tight Mings was/is with McGinn, Watkins and Martinez, and how in turn these players are the key to the dressing room and the whole thing started to unravel for him quickly from pre season onwards.
Might be absolute nonsense, but kind of has a ring of truth about it to me, but who knows.

[PeterWithesShin]

Interview with the great man here (from around 20 mins in): https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/michael-calvins-football-people/id1090909834

Thanks for posting. That is a must listen imo, about both Tyrone but also what he says about Unai.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Interview with the great man here (from around 20 mins in): https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/michael-calvins-football-people/id1090909834

Thanks for posting. That is a must listen imo, about both Tyrone but also what he says about Unai.

Cheers, Paddy. 19 minutes is the place to start. I can't imagine Mings' reaction when told he no longer needs to be throwing his body on the line. It just confirms my long term belief that the most important signing is the manager. It's the biggest job at the club. As PWS says, it's a must listen. And to think Slippy G thought Tyrone was distracted (by BLM, etc?), Ty has proved he can do both. Love him.

[nigel]

Interview with the great man here (from around 20 mins in): https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/michael-calvins-football-people/id1090909834

Brilliant listen.
Really like Tyrone anyway, I like him even more so now.
Interesting about Rodri, the ‘individual performance coach’, and his knowledge on every position.

[brontebilly]

I honestly think in a few years time we'll look back and realise he's been one of our most important signings in the last 30 years.  He's been absolutely instrumental in getting us from one of our lowest ebbs to the fringes of European qualification.  I'd say probably after Jack our he's been our single most important player in that period.  A talisman.  Awesome.

Without doubt I'd say he is already the most important signing we have made in the last 30 years.  After we'd been left with one fit CB by Potato Head and were probably drifting towards another season in the Championship it was Mings signing that changed things.  We almost certainly wouldn't have been promoted without him, and would be nowhere near where we are now.

Of all the crap we put up with from Gerrard, his treatment of Mings was the most unforgivable for me and why I love to imagine what Steven Me is thinking as he watches Mings playing the best football of his life under one of the best managers world football.

It marked his card for me. If nothing else it smacked of a rookie trying to force his authority and in reality just creating unnecessary problems for himself. Our kid said the other day he wondered if there was a race element to it

That's not on (last sentence)..Gerrard was guilty of a lot of things but not that. I'd agree on the rookie manager trying to force his authority on his captain, guilty of listening too much to the likes of Souness, Keane etc. Perhaps something went down on the summer tour too, right from the Bournemouth game something just seemed off with the players and really Gerrard should have been let go after the diabolical defeat at Palace soon after.

Maybe Carlos was going to be the next Maldini in terms of playing out from the back but Gerrard completely mismanaged that situation with a very popular player. I think he was on borrowed time really from that.

Ive known someone a very long time, who through work knows someone who in turn knows Gerard…..I know how this sounds…

Anyway, this ITK (or not) said Gerard has admitted to those he knows, he massively f**ked up at Villa. His idea was to break certain players down and then try to and build them back up and mould them into what he wanted. Apparently he didn’t appreciate how tight Mings was/is with McGinn, Watkins and Martinez, and how in turn these players are the key to the dressing room and the whole thing started to unravel for him quickly from pre season onwards.
Might be absolute nonsense, but kind of has a ring of truth about it to me, but who knows.

That day at Palace, after going ahead, the way the players downed tools really suggested serious problems. Tactically Gerrard was all over the place too. Likes of Cash bombing forward sending a series of shite crosses into Watkins up against maybe three defenders, getting constantly caught for numbers on the counter with likes of McGinn.

Emery tactically owned EtH in his first game and hasn't really looked back.

[Baldy]

Thanks Sexual Ealing, a fantastic listen.

The talk of a 'winning mentality' is so refreshing after years of many players just going through the motions.

[FrankyH]

Tyrone had plenty in the bank with Villa supporters. Mr Gerrard to his own cost didn't . I think it was the most ill informed spat, considering how popular the player was and still is with supporters and the rest of the team.

[FatSam]

Ive known someone a very long time, who through work knows someone who in turn knows Gerard…..I know how this sounds…

Anyway, this ITK (or not) said Gerard has admitted to those he knows, he massively f**ked up at Villa. His idea was to break certain players down and then try to and build them back up and mould them into what he wanted. Apparently he didn’t appreciate how tight Mings was/is with McGinn, Watkins and Martinez, and how in turn these players are the key to the dressing room and the whole thing started to unravel for him quickly from pre season onwards.
Might be absolute nonsense, but kind of has a ring of truth about it to me, but who knows.

That may well be the case, but regardless of this, he wasn’t able to set the team up to win games anyway. If the only aspect of management that you are able to influence is motivating players, and you can’t even do that, then you are finished.

[LeeB]

I honestly think in a few years time we'll look back and realise he's been one of our most important signings in the last 30 years.  He's been absolutely instrumental in getting us from one of our lowest ebbs to the fringes of European qualification.  I'd say probably after Jack our he's been our single most important player in that period.  A talisman.  Awesome.

Without doubt I'd say he is already the most important signing we have made in the last 30 years.  After we'd been left with one fit CB by Potato Head and were probably drifting towards another season in the Championship it was Mings signing that changed things.  We almost certainly wouldn't have been promoted without him, and would be nowhere near where we are now.

Of all the crap we put up with from Gerrard, his treatment of Mings was the most unforgivable for me and why I love to imagine what Steven Me is thinking as he watches Mings playing the best football of his life under one of the best managers world football.

It marked his card for me. If nothing else it smacked of a rookie trying to force his authority and in reality just creating unnecessary problems for himself. Our kid said the other day he wondered if there was a race element to it

That's not on (last sentence)..Gerrard was guilty of a lot of things but not that. I'd agree on the rookie manager trying to force his authority on his captain, guilty of listening too much to the likes of Souness, Keane etc. Perhaps something went down on the summer tour too, right from the Bournemouth game something just seemed off with the players and really Gerrard should have been let go after the diabolical defeat at Palace soon after.

Maybe Carlos was going to be the next Maldini in terms of playing out from the back but Gerrard completely mismanaged that situation with a very popular player. I think he was on borrowed time really from that.

Ive known someone a very long time, who through work knows someone who in turn knows Gerard…..I know how this sounds…

Anyway, this ITK (or not) said Gerard has admitted to those he knows, he massively f**ked up at Villa. His idea was to break certain players down and then try to and build them back up and mould them into what he wanted. Apparently he didn’t appreciate how tight Mings was/is with McGinn, Watkins and Martinez, and how in turn these players are the key to the dressing room and the whole thing started to unravel for him quickly from pre season onwards.
Might be absolute nonsense, but kind of has a ring of truth about it to me, but who knows.

That day at Palace, after going ahead, the way the players downed tools really suggested serious problems. Tactically Gerrard was all over the place too. Likes of Cash bombing forward sending a series of shite crosses into Watkins up against maybe three defenders, getting constantly caught for numbers on the counter with likes of McGinn.

Emery tactically owned EtH in his first game and hasn't really looked back.

I was at the Palace game and it was the point where I knew the gig was up, and it felt like every else there knew as well.

If what has been said is true then it just confirms what a twat he was. Why go through that cod psychologist shite, just fucking coach the players and give them a tactical platform to play with confidence. Everything else will look after itself.

Dickhead.

[aj2k77]

Not only does he have plenty in the bank with us he has the keys to the vault. He's been absolutely fantastic since the moment he joined us and his desire to play for this club has been clear to all. Not only that but he's a fantastic captain and example and he deserved the backing he got from the support and probably team mates over the old manager.

One of our best 5 signings in the last 10-15 years.

[dr.chekov]

Not only does he have plenty in the bank with us he has the keys to the vault. He's been absolutely fantastic since the moment he joined us and his desire to play for this club has been clear to all. Not only that but he's a fantastic captain and example and he deserved the backing he got from the support and probably team mates over the old manager.

One of our best 5 signings in the last 10-15 years.

Agree with all this. I am obviously very happy he’s back to his best, but my affection for him wasn’t diminished when he was having a tough time on the pitch