Tyrone Mings

[OCD]

He's a massive miss when he's not fit. If we have European games as well next season, we might need to go and sign someone like Pau Torres to cope with the load.

[Olof's Beard]

He has pretty much entirely consistent for his time here, despite what people say, but Emery has taken his game to a new level. The thing about Tyrone is he hadn't played for pretty much four years before he joined us and came into the game late, so for a player of his age (25/26) he played the same number of games as a 20/21 year old. He still showed natural leadership qualities but had to learn on the job a bit. He now has the perfect manager to iron out the kinks and let his natural qualities shine.

I see him as a symbol of our recovery after the shit show years and for that reason, he is one of my favourite players since I started supporting. He's ace.

[Sexual Ealing]

He has pretty much entirely consistent for his time here, despite what people say, but Emery has taken his game to a new level. The thing about Tyrone is he hadn't played for pretty much four years before he joined us and came into the game late, so for a player of his age (25/26) he played the same number of games as a 20/21 year old. He still showed natural leadership qualities but had to learn on the job a bit. He now has the perfect manager to iron out the kinks and let his natural qualities shine.

I see him as a symbol of our recovery after the shit show years and for that reason, he is one of my favourite players since I started supporting. He's ace.

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[olaftab]

Agreed Olof. As they say in our homeland North Vikingshire he had to få blod på tannen. Always inspirational.

[Risso]

He has pretty much entirely consistent for his time here, despite what people say, but Emery has taken his game to a new level. The thing about Tyrone is he hadn't played for pretty much four years before he joined us and came into the game late, so for a player of his age (25/26) he played the same number of games as a 20/21 year old. He still showed natural leadership qualities but had to learn on the job a bit. He now has the perfect manager to iron out the kinks and let his natural qualities shine.

I see him as a symbol of our recovery after the shit show years and for that reason, he is one of my favourite players since I started supporting. He's ace.

He used to make mistakes, now he doesn't. That's the consistency we need from him. He's always had everything to be one of the best in the game. He's tall, powerful, quick and reads the game well, but he made too many mistakes to be considered really top level. The header to Mason Mount against Chelsea at home earlier in the season being one such example. Now though, he's been faultless for weeks and weeks, and his passing has improved no end as well.

[chrisw1]

But even his mistakes are sometimes over stated.  How often have his mistakes led to a goal - once or twice a season maybe?  Now consider how often he makes a goal saving block or tackle.  I know that's his job, but even so I think he's massively in credit in that column.

[Risso]

But even his mistakes are sometimes over stated.  How often have his mistakes led to a goal - once or twice a season maybe?   

I think it was a lot more often that that.

[Chris Smith]

But even his mistakes are sometimes over stated.  How often have his mistakes led to a goal - once or twice a season maybe?   

I think it was a lot more often that that.

It seemed at one point Mings was having to shoulder too much on his own. The defence being properly drilled and receiving better protection from the midfield means that each can concentrate on their own jobs instead of being too easily pulled out of position.

[chrisw1]

But even his mistakes are sometimes over stated.  How often have his mistakes led to a goal - once or twice a season maybe?   

I think it was a lot more often that that.

According to this page https://www.premierleague.com/players/8900/Tyrone-Mings/stats?co=1&se=489 it's:

22/23 - 2
21/22 - 1
20/21 - 1

Whereas he seems to make a goal saving block or tackle pretty much every other game.

[Risso]

But even his mistakes are sometimes over stated.  How often have his mistakes led to a goal - once or twice a season maybe?   

I think it was a lot more often that that.

It seemed at one point Mings was having to shoulder too much on his own. The defence being properly drilled and receiving better protection from the midfield means that each can concentrate on their own jobs instead of being too easily pulled out of position.

Yes the whole team is playing 100 times better now. Defending as a unit and attacking as a unit. When we don't have the ball it's often 6 players we have defending like their lives depend on it. Picking a random game as a comparison from Gerrard's time, look at the 3-3 draw with Leeds last year. Some great attacking play from Coutinho and Ramsey, but the midfield and the defence especially Mings, were all over the place. We see none of that now, and the one game where we did (Leicester at home) was obviously used by Emery as a lesson to them all to tighten up.

One of the big differences that Emery has instilled is consistency, with Mings one of the main beneficiaries. How many times in the last few years have we heard "if we play like that we'll win more than we lose" only to play like drains the following week? Or "we've had a great week in training" only for the team to yet again, play like they've only just met.

[Risso]

But even his mistakes are sometimes over stated.  How often have his mistakes led to a goal - once or twice a season maybe?   

I think it was a lot more often that that.

According to this page https://www.premierleague.com/players/8900/Tyrone-Mings/stats?co=1&se=489 it's:

22/23 - 2
21/22 - 1
20/21 - 1

Whereas he seems to make a goal saving block or tackle pretty much every other game.

That all depends on how you class a mistake leading to a goal I guess. I seem to recall in the Leeds game I mention above he was at least partly responsible for all three goals. But in any case, those days are firmly behind him. He's been absolutely brilliant. To misquote the bellend Leeds fans "Tyrone Mings, is fucking great, Tyrone Mings is fucking great."

[FatSam]

Yes, the whole team is playing 100 times better now. Defending as a unit and attacking as a unit. When we don't have the ball it's often 6 players we have defending like their lives depend on it. Picking a random game as a comparison from Gerrard's time, look at the 3-3 draw with Leeds last year. Some great attacking play from Coutinho and Ramsey, but the midfield and the defence especially Mings, were all over the place. We see none of that now, and the one game where we did (Leicester at home) was obviously used by Emery as a lesson to them all to tighten up.

That Leeds game was one of his worst in a Villa shirt. He let Bamford get in his head. I think it was very much an anomaly though, and a lot of the mistakes that he has made have been due to being exposed by the system, or his team mates, and being the one who takes responsibility for situations. It was him making last ditch tackles, or goal line clearances. I maintain that he’s always been a good player, and good enough for the top places of the EPL, and now we have a manager and system that are bringing it to realisation. He’s basically risen to every challenge along the way, since he joined us in January 2019. His character and presence have a lot to do with that also.

[German James]

He used to annoy me by making runs deep into the opponants' half at the drop of a hat; now he's rarely over the halfway line. As a consequence, he's able to concentrate on his main job and do it bloody well! Another sign of the manager's clear instructions.

[SamTheMouse]

It's a team game, certainly, and while Mings has been known to make mistakes, it's debatable how many of those were down to him alone (some undoubtedly were) and how many were the result of general poor organisation of the team as a whole (maybe the majority).

Even brilliant defenders start cocking up regularly if the team is looking iffy. For evidence look no further than Van Dyke, often lauded as one of the best on the planet. This season he's looked more like Ciaran Clark.

I probably used to be overly critical of Mings, but Emery has opened my eyes a bit to the fact that individuals are often made to look worse by indifferent managers. Maybe it's a lesson to me to be more patient in future.

[FatSam]

He has been a hate figure for many armchair fans ever since he stamped on Ibra’s head.