Tyrone Mings

[Drummond]

The last three pages have been a depressing read. Tl;dr, a white man knows more about racism than a cultured, educated, sensitive mixed race man who has overcome hardship, racism and poverty to take a stand against racism. It's a great look for us as a fanbase.

Just copying my original message for context.

I'm a massive fan of Tyrone but think he's on to a loser here.

"At the same time, at Wembley there was a hugely positive reaction to us taking the knee as well"
Right Ty. That's why you were trying to keep everyone else kneeling when they jumped up after a couple of seconds.

You can't have BLM on your shirts when you first start making the symbol then say it's not that BLM when they make the met police kneel and try to burn the Union Jack at the cenotaph. It doesn't wash. It's going to get booed. Do something else.

Can you explain exactly what it is you think Tyrone Mings et al are standing for if it's not what they say it is? And why would they lie? And why would they continue?

[chrisf]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

Oooh that's even better.  Hahaha,

[Sexual Ealing]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle in the wind.

[LeeB]

I respect those that can laugh at themselves when they've had their arses handed to them.

[pauliewalnuts]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle n the wind.

And it seems to me that he lived his life
LIKE A FASCIST IN THE WIND

[Monty]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle in the wind.

More like a burning cross than a candle.

[Sexual Ealing]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle n the wind.

And it seems to me that he lived his life
LIKE A FASCIST IN THE WIND

He was only defending our brave lions. The ones who had the bravery to stand up against the hateful politics of the people booing them.

[chrisf]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

It's a very strange world you gents exist in. I want to be friends but you're not so much. Can't see why.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle n the wind.

And it seems to me that he lived his life
LIKE A FASCIST IN THE WIND

[chrisf]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

It's a very strange world you gents exist in. I want to be friends but you're not so much. Can't see why.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle n the wind.

And it seems to me that he lived his life
LIKE A FASCIST IN THE WIND

That's harsh of another Villa fan. Not sure why you'd say that?

[Toronto Villa]

Chris don’t you have an EDL meeting to attend? Or a Met Police social? Your conscious willingness to not remotely understand the broader issue at hand marks you out for precisely what you have revealed yourself to be.

[paul_e]

Maybe because you've admitted you want to boo one of our own players for daring to make an anti-racism stance for a few seconds before games.

[Sexual Ealing]

My (uninvited) advice would be to stop saying daft things to fellow Villa fans about Villa players.

[Monty]

Lads feel happy cos you've given me a good laugh. You bunch on nut jobs.

It's a very strange world you gents exist in. I want to be friends but you're not so much. Can't see why.

What a privilege to be present at the birth of a new form of white flight.

I will miss chrisf. He was a candle n the wind.

And it seems to me that he lived his life
LIKE A FASCIST IN THE WIND

That's harsh of another Villa fan. Not sure why you'd say that?

Ah he's upset we're not distinguishing enough between a movement and its fringe, adorable.

[brontebilly]

When, exactly, would there be a public occasion at which these prats would have the opportunity to actually boo Kick It Out? If they could they would, because most of the booers don’t want an end to racism (the others don’t think it’s an issue).

That's fair comment. I only comment (esp on this thread) because I don't think it's a few prats booing and I don't think they're booing because they're racists.

I have huge respect for Tyrone and his team mates intentions but I'd boo if I was there because I think in this choice of symbolic gesture is divisive and we don't need stuff that's divisive.

But booing your own players isn't divisive?

[chrisf]

I don't want to boo Tyrone but will boo Tyrone for taking the knee to his corporate masters. Who do you think Tyrone is takiing the knee to?