Tyrone Mings

[FatSam]

Remind me how much Bournemouth paid for Solanki and Ibe?

Do you disagree with the point I was trying to make though? It doesn’t seem quite right that someone who was surplus to requirements enough to be allowed to go on loan to a mid-table championship club in January, is now suddenly worth £20m. The fact is that we need players urgently, and Mings is guaranteed to settle. I think Bournemouth have played it well and exploited our situation, regardless of whether they have overpaid for players in the past. As far as i’m Aware Ibe and Solanke were younger players than Mings is now when they bought them, and didn’t have injury issues. Again, don’t get me wrong, I’m really hoping this will work out for us.

[john e]

Remind me how much Bournemouth paid for Solanki and Ibe?

Do you disagree with the point I was trying to make though? It doesn’t seem quite right that someone who was surplus to requirements enough to be allowed to go on loan to a mid-table championship club in January, is now suddenly worth £20m. The fact is that we need players urgently, and Mings is guaranteed to settle. I think Bournemouth have played it well and exploited our situation, regardless of whether they have overpaid for players in the past. As far as i’m Aware Ibe and Solanke were younger players than Mings is now when they bought them, and didn’t have injury issues. Again, don’t get me wrong, I’m really hoping this will work out for us.

we arn’t buying the player that was injured for Bournemouth we are buying the player we saw help us gain promotion last season and was the best CH in the championship

yes Bournemouth got lucky with the loan system and that added to his value which they had every right to exploit
but we are buying one hell of a central defender with his best years ahead of him who we know  fits the system 100%

[Fred Crump]

Remind me how much Bournemouth paid for Solanki and Ibe?

Do you disagree with the point I was trying to make though? It doesn’t seem quite right that someone who was surplus to requirements enough to be allowed to go on loan to a mid-table championship club in January, is now suddenly worth £20m. The fact is that we need players urgently, and Mings is guaranteed to settle. I think Bournemouth have played it well and exploited our situation, regardless of whether they have overpaid for players in the past. As far as i’m Aware Ibe and Solanke were younger players than Mings is now when they bought them, and didn’t have injury issues. Again, don’t get me wrong, I’m really hoping this will work out for us.

FFS mate did you watch any of the second half of last season? He was fecking brilliant and is worth every penny. I don’t give a flying flange if Bournemouth did well out of it. We will do better. Just enjoy it or get out a bit more.

[Pete3206]

Couldn't give a shiny shite about the fee. This is a player we need and it looks like we've got him.

Over the moon.

[FatSam]

FFS mate did you watch any of the second half of last season? He was fecking brilliant and is worth every penny. I don’t give a flying flange if Bournemouth did well out of it. We will do better. Just enjoy it or get out a bit more.

No, I didn’t watch any of the second half of last season, because I was literally out all the time. 😉

[Fred Crump]

Lol , good come back !

[richtheholtender]

What do people think is going to happen when Bournemouth come calling for a player now? The money (the slight sum) that we have apparently overpaid is going to get spread out anyway and so insignificant.

[AsTallAsLions]

Remind me how much Bournemouth paid for Solanki and Ibe?

Do you disagree with the point I was trying to make though? It doesn’t seem quite right that someone who was surplus to requirements enough to be allowed to go on loan to a mid-table championship club in January, is now suddenly worth £20m. The fact is that we need players urgently, and Mings is guaranteed to settle. I think Bournemouth have played it well and exploited our situation, regardless of whether they have overpaid for players in the past. As far as i’m Aware Ibe and Solanke were younger players than Mings is now when they bought them, and didn’t have injury issues. Again, don’t get me wrong, I’m really hoping this will work out for us.

FFS mate did you watch any of the second half of last season? He was fecking brilliant and is worth every penny. I don’t give a flying flange if Bournemouth did well out of it. We will do better. Just enjoy it or get out a bit more.

Steady on Fred. It's okay to disagree. No need to get so emotional!

[Malandro]

Couldn't give a shiny shite about the fee. This is a player we need and it looks like we've got him.

Over the moon.

No need to write anything else.

He's worth every penny. We might get six years service from Mings.

[paul_e]

A few days back I said we'd end up with a compromise of £15-17m but I didn't think it'd complete for a few weeks (and I wasn't counting bonuses and clauses into that). I think £18.9m to get it completed a couple of weeks quicker is fine and I'm ok with the fee being up to £26m if a big chunk of that is dependant on him playing for England, and us staying up this year and him playing 100+ games for us, etc then great, that's the way we should always structure our deals.

[paul_e]

Didn't paul_e have Hause, El Ghazi and Mings down at 10-12 million for the lot about a month ago?

Yep, but it was on the basis that there would be a value in the matching clause that became active at a certain date because I didn't see the point of the clause otherwise. As it turns out we agreed an utterly pointless clause in the loan agreement. Other than that we paid what I expected for Hause and El Ghazi.

[littleoldme]

Yes,welcome home lad.

[john e]

good riding there Paul e

you got a new bike with a strong back peddle

[Fred Crump]

Remind me how much Bournemouth paid for Solanki and Ibe?

Do you disagree with the point I was trying to make though? It doesn’t seem quite right that someone who was surplus to requirements enough to be allowed to go on loan to a mid-table championship club in January, is now suddenly worth £20m. The fact is that we need players urgently, and Mings is guaranteed to settle. I think Bournemouth have played it well and exploited our situation, regardless of whether they have overpaid for players in the past. As far as i’m Aware Ibe and Solanke were younger players than Mings is now when they bought them, and didn’t have injury issues. Again, don’t get me wrong, I’m really hoping this will work out for us.

FFS mate did you watch any of the second half of last season? He was fecking brilliant and is worth every penny. I don’t give a flying flange if Bournemouth did well out of it. We will do better. Just enjoy it or get out a bit more.

Steady on Fred. It's okay to disagree. No need to get so emotional!

Haha . It’s me hormones!

[FatSam]

we arn’t buying the player that was injured for Bournemouth we are buying the player we saw help us gain promotion last season and was the best CH in the championship

They are the same player.

yes Bournemouth got lucky with the loan system and that added to his value which they had every right to exploit
but we are buying one hell of a central defender with his best years ahead of him who we know  fits the system 100%

Agreed. I think I’m just a bit frustrated at what a weak position the years of mis-management up to the start of last season has left us in. I really hope we will get into a position of strength, where we can buy and sell players on our terms. When was the last time a club offered tempting money for one of our players for example? The enormous amount of money Sunderland had been over-spending on players during the years that they were in the EPL demonstrates the problem of urgently needing to bring players in when you are struggling in the league.

The tail end of the Lerner years showed how difficult it is to cope in the EPL if you haven’t invested in your squad sufficiently or intelligently. By the point we went down our squad was pitifully weak, and would have required enormous investment to get up to mid-table level. The Xia squad investment that did follow wasn’t very intelligent, and we mostly overpaid for players. Now, having only just dodged FFP by the skin of our teeth, we need to completely re-build our squad over a summer.

It's obviously great that the El Ghazi and Hause loans had options to buy included, and if you take all three (with Mings) permanent transfers together, they are still decent business.