Wigan v Villa post-match thread

[kippaxvilla2]

He sounded clueless in the post match interview on the radio.

[PaulWinch again]

He sounded clueless in the post match interview on the radio.

That’s encouraging.

[QuintonVilla]

Worse than anything under Bruce.

Too many average or garbage players.

Defence is a shambles.

Midfield non existent.

Nothing going forward and no spark.

No fight.

We're a mid table team.

Shite.

[SoccerHQ]

Like Top Deck, I'm trying to think when we were as bad as that since we've been down here, except I wish I was musing that over a pint instead of being stuck on a coach. It was absotuley abysmal.

Preston away under RDM.

Loads under SB aswell.

Far more than what should've happened at this level. We just look like another wildly inconsistant mid table team now.

[john e]

Keep McGinn and Grealish - ship the rest out!

problem is its more likely to be the exact opposite

[curiousorange]

Yes, don't be under any illusions that this is the worst it's ever been. There are plenty of examples of so-called nadirs over the past decade.

[CT]

I'd let John McGinn back on the bus and make the rest walk back.

[wolfman999]

Gob-smackingly, jaw-droppingly, worryingly awful. New levels of shitness reached, all capped by possibly the worst debut I've ever seen. Dreadful all round, on the pitch and in the dugout. How is it possible that we're getting worse?

No the worst debut I ever saw was Ken McNaught and he didn’t turn out to be too bad in the end

Funnily enough Hause was so extraordinarily bad I did wonder if he might be destined to become a club legend. It sort of had the feeling of a debut that might go down in folklore, if you know what I mean.

Akin to Ugo against Norwich?

Remember that one. He got pulled at half time and never got within 5 miles of the first team for years after. Turned out ok in the end though.

[Brend'Watkins]

Where has the energy and effort gone, the game plan, the attitude? This was all there from the moment Smith arrived. It appears to have evaporated. Forget the videos just tell them to do what they did against’ boro and Derby and repeat game after game. Nothing less is acceptable.

[clash city rocker]

The one thing that struck me today was a lot of clubs in this division are teams. We aren't. We are simply a collection of individuals.

[Steve67]

I'd let John McGinn back on the bus and make the rest walk back.

They'd probably all wander off in different directions, like children when they get let out in to the playground at break-time.  We really are very very poor and Smith is now contributing to it. 

[eamonn]

The worry now is that he spent the week looking for a reaction from the players after the awful Swansea performance and this was the opportunity for them to show him what they can do. They clearly failed but spending next week at Bodymoor saying the same things to them he did after Swansea is clearly not going to work. Too many of them are either lazy, stupid or scared.

[wolfman999]

Worse than anything under Bruce.

Too many average or garbage players.

Defence is a shambles.

Midfield non existent.

Nothing going forward and no spark.

No fight.

We're a mid table team.

Shite.

Was that the script from the post match interview with Dean Smith?

[ktvillan]

Unbelievable how quickly we've gone from looking shit-hot, passing teams off the park and creating chances for fun to an absolute shambles.  It can't just be down to Grealish or the new manager bounce fading.  Something looks seriously up at the club.  The persistence with Whelan, and especially bringing him on when we're behind is bizarre.  Smith is starting to look like he doesn't know what he is doing or how to address this slide into mediocrity.

[PeterWithesShin]

Akin to Ugo against Norwich?

Which wasn't his debut.