The International Cricket Thread

[taylorsworkrate]

Mott will probably keep his job as coach as technically England have got to a semi final.

Its very flattering though. Only one good performance against a proper side during the tournament.

Mott should still go really. Buttler as limited overs captain deserves to lost that job too

[LeeB]

I've always had a bit of an issue with the one 's' in Jos and two 't' in Butter if I'm honest.

[PaulWinch again]

I've genuinely never seen what all the fuss is about with Jofra Archer, in any format of the game.  I presume I am in a minority on this.

Really?

I guess he hasn't played enough.  He's done ok in this tournament to be fair, but in tests, I don't see him as any better than Wood or Stone.  I hope I'm wrong and he wins us the ashes as he should enjoy the Aussie pitches.

He’s a different level for me. He was mismanaged in his Test career to date, by being bowled for horrendously long spells. But his pace is a plus, but he’s an incredibly skilful bowler. He worked over Steve Smith when he was in the richest vein of form in his career.

[PaulWinch again]

Mott will probably keep his job as coach as technically England have got to a semi final.

Its very flattering though. Only one good performance against a proper side during the tournament.

Mott should still go really. Buttler as limited overs captain deserves to lost that job too

I think there needs to be a refresh of some players and ideas

[paul_e]

I've genuinely never seen what all the fuss is about with Jofra Archer, in any format of the game.  I presume I am in a minority on this.

Really?

I guess he hasn't played enough.  He's done ok in this tournament to be fair, but in tests, I don't see him as any better than Wood or Stone.  I hope I'm wrong and he wins us the ashes as he should enjoy the Aussie pitches.

He’s a different level for me. He was mismanaged in his Test career to date, by being bowled for horrendously long spells. But his pace is a plus, but he’s an incredibly skilful bowler. He worked over Steve Smith when he was in the richest vein of form in his career.

Yep, I agree, his test record isn't great but he was a victim of a very poor England setup at the time. I think if he'd been fit when the 'bazball' era started he'd be the main man in our attack now and would be on well over 100 wickets.

His ODI and T20i record is excellent. Take away the ridiculous injury problems he's had and I reckon he'd be regarded as one of the top white ball bowlers in the world. He hasn't used it much recently (and might not be able to anymore) but his slow ball when he came through a few years ago was genuinely exceptional and made a lot of very good batsmen look like fools.

[paul_e]

and as if by magic when looking for a clip of one of his slower deliveries it turns out he got Travis Head out with one in the group match

It's on here, start at about 55s in and watch the slow-mo after to see how he turns the seam to do it.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/tournaments/t20cricketworldcup/videos/impressive-australia-beat-defending-champions-match-highlights-aus-v-eng-t20wc-2024

[PaulWinch again]

He got Sky with one today too.

It was a weird decision to put India into bat. I know there was rain about, and it might have made no difference, but it feels like a tough pitch to chase on.

[cdbearsfan]

I'd have done the same. Always a chance second innings gets reduced and I feel that's usually an advantage for team batting second in T20s. Not quite as much as when it's potentially a five over slog, but even so.

[paul_e]

I think I'd have batted but I can understand why they decided to bowl. The problem was we leaked some easy runs before the rain and then looked too nervy once we came back out.

After their innings we really needed something special from the top 4 and only Buttler threatened to provide it.

[taylorsworkrate]

It shows now what a really poor effort we made in the field in general. The pitch was poor. No excuse not to limit a team to at most 140 on a surface like that.

The batting was poor after but I lay the blame more at the bowlers

[PaulWinch again]

The biggest indictment of the attitude of the approach in this tournament is Jacks being dropped and never appearing again. He struggled in his two games, but he had been picked as the team’s number 3. He was thrown to the slaughter by Buttler against Australia with the ball, and barely had a chance with the bat.

Now this is a guy they’d selected to bat 3, but at the first sign of trouble he’s dumped and never seen again. It just feels weak to me, and he’s a proper batsmen in a team that looked short of batting - I don’t mean players who can hit a couple of big hits and get out.

[Richard]

Buttler can't keep opening, captaining and keeping wicket it's affecting his judgement. I've noticed we've won the toss several times since he's captained and made the wrong choice, that's also on the coaches too.

Surprised Duckett never played, he'd have been a better bet than Bairstow Moeen or Livingstone.

[tomd2103]

Mott will probably keep his job as coach as technically England have got to a semi final.

Its very flattering though. Only one good performance against a proper side during the tournament.

Mott should still go really. Buttler as limited overs captain deserves to lost that job too

Probably will be the end of the line for Buttler, but Mott might stay on.  Just all feels a bit disposable really and can't see there being any real clamour for change. 

The two best teams are in the final and it should be a decent game.

[tomd2103]

Buttler can't keep opening, captaining and keeping wicket it's affecting his judgement. I've noticed we've won the toss several times since he's captained and made the wrong choice, that's also on the coaches too.

Surprised Duckett never played, he'd have been a better bet than Bairstow Moeen or Livingstone.

Wouldn't be surprised if Buttler knocks international cricket on the head now and joins the T20 circuit.  Must be tempting as he's very unlikely to be recalled into the test team at this point and has win the World Cup in both shorter formats of the game.

[charlatan]

I've always had a bit of an issue with the one 's' in Jos and two 't' in Butter if I'm honest.

you'd prefer to know which side your bread is butered on?