The International Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

It’s gone some strong competition but I’m going with this is the worst England performance at a World Cup ever. Absolutely shameful. The top order has been utterly dreadful. Good news is Livingstone has a two year deal…

[Lsvilla]

Livingstone will end up as a bowling all rounder.

[PaulWinch again]

Livingstone will end up as a bowling all rounder.

He’s getting on a bit to develop enough.

[Villan For Life]

Angelo Matthews has been given out timed out in the  Bangladesh v Sri Lanka game. That’s something that I have never seen before in any form of cricket.

[paul_e]

Angelo Matthews has been given out timed out in the  Bangladesh v Sri Lanka game. That’s something that I have never seen before in any form of cricket.

Definitely a first in international cricket, there's already a fair few stories about it around the press.

This one is the best I can find and suggests it's happened 6 times before.

[Lsvilla]

Livingstone will end up as a bowling all rounder.

He’s getting on a bit to develop enough.

I don't think so. He's 30. Will be fine for the next World Cup all things being equal. His bowling's not that far away and to be able to switch between off and leg spin is a massive talent. What I meant with my original comment was he'd drop one place in the order and bat at 8 in the ODI side when Woakes has moved on. Ideally we're finding a quick bowling all rounder to replace stokes in the top 6 to balance the side as well.

[tomd2103]

Angelo Matthews has been given out timed out in the  Bangladesh v Sri Lanka game. That’s something that I have never seen before in any form of cricket.

Definitely a first in international cricket, there's already a fair few stories about it around the press.

This one is the best I can find and suggests it's happened 6 times before.

Easy enough to say when you're not the one facing the bowling with a dodgy helmet, but why didn't he just face a ball and then asked for it to be changed?

[paul_e]

For me Livingstone is like a lot of modern all-rounders who've come through in the t20 era. He's capable of some destructive hitting but struggles to balance that with the need to sometimes bat out 30-40overs. On top of that he's come into this tournment looking 'undercooked' (like the entire batting line-up) and the outcome is that he's looked a liability.

[LeeB]

For me Livingstone is like a lot of modern all-rounders who've come through in the t20 era. He's capable of some destructive hitting but struggles to balance that with the need to sometimes bat out 30-40overs. On top of that he's come into this tournment looking 'undercooked' (like the entire batting line-up) and the outcome is that he's looked a liability.

Not knocking your appraisal mate but I just find the concept of batsmen looking undercooked odd, I can understand with bowlers and their rhythm but you can either twat the ball or you can't.

As someone who was always more bowler than batsman that may be my bias because I always considered them lazy bastards and gloryhunters.

[UK Redsox]

The instances of Timed-Out dismissals are in this Beeb article

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/67333235

However, this one is different, because Mathews has already faced a delivery

[Richard]

I didn't think he had faced a delivery?

[PaulWinch again]

Surely he can’t have can he?

[olaftab]

It was unprofessional by Matthews. He came out with a faulty helmet. That should have been sorted by either him or his team prior to taking field. I am with Saqib.

[UK Redsox]

I didn't think he had faced a delivery?

 I think you’re right.

The report I read said that the strap broke after his ball.
I suspect that’s incorrect info.

[paul_e]

It was unprofessional by Matthews. He came out with a faulty helmet. That should have been sorted by either him or his team prior to taking field. I am with Saqib.

Not for me, you have to be an arse to appeal for that and then uphold it.