The International Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Shameful batting again. Desperate.

[PaulWinch again]

Love Stokes but he shouldn’t have just waltzed back in. They look like a team who doesn’t have a clue on the best side - muddled, without a plan, pretty awful. It takes some doing to put out England’s worst World Cup effort but this is it.

[Villa Lew]

Are we now officially out of the World Cup?, not that we've ever been in it!

[tomd2103]

Love Stokes but he shouldn’t have just waltzed back in. They look like a team who doesn’t have a clue on the best side - muddled, without a plan, pretty awful. It takes some doing to put out England’s worst World Cup effort but this is it.

Have to.wonder how this has happened and some serious questions need to be asked really.  The timing of the announcement about the contracts can't have helped, bug there seems to be something gone on.

[Lsvilla]

Love Stokes but he shouldn’t have just waltzed back in. They look like a team who doesn’t have a clue on the best side - muddled, without a plan, pretty awful. It takes some doing to put out England’s worst World Cup effort but this is it.

Have to.wonder how this has happened and some serious questions need to be asked really.  The timing of the announcement about the contracts can't have helped, bug there seems to be something gone on.

Morgan alluded to that I believe today. Woakes was asked and denied it - as of course he would - but rarely smoke without fire.

[Risso]

Bottom of the table behind the Netherlands and Bangladesh. Blimey.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s been a brutal collapse.

[Gareth]

Repeat until blue in face ‘we have introduced new fans with our new format’

Undercooked, badly & arrogantly prepared….got exactly what they deserve.  Deserve to finish bottom

Can’t think of any sport that a World Cup win was capitalised on less…ECB are clowns

[PaulWinch again]

I’ll be honest I think the Hundred has done some good things, mainly for the women’s game.

But they shouldn’t have marginalised the 50 over game domestically. Although I don’t think that’s the issue with this World Cup to be honest.

[Gareth]

Agree it has helped the women’s game, but damn sure prioritising that garbage for the men over the Ashes, the Championship and the domestic 50 over competition plus the knock on that they arrogantly played 50 over games vs Ireland with the reserves was pathetic.

[Rory]

The benefit to the women's game is indeed the only positive of the Hundred, but I fail to see why that couldn't have been achieved with a restructuring and rebranding of the t20 Blast.

I'm convinced Hundred games even last longer than t20s because of the non-stop talking between deliveries.

[tomd2103]

I’ll be honest I think the Hundred has done some good things, mainly for the women’s game.

But they shouldn’t have marginalised the 50 over game domestically. Although I don’t think that’s the issue with this World Cup to be honest.

I keep hearing this "it has done good things for the women's game" but has it really?  Would a better structured T20 competition have done the same or even more?  I'm not having a go at you Paul by the way, but it just seems that this whole "it's done good things for the women's game" line is trotted out to defend the existence of the tournament.

I mean what are the metrics being used to determine that it has done well for the women's game?

[Villan For Life]

The Hundred hasn’t affected this squad though has it? It didn’t hamper their development as international white ball players.

[PaulWinch again]

Well who knows, but I think the rebrand has helped mean it carved a path as something “new”. That probably made it easier to engage a new audience and also made it more appealing to the broadcasters. As a whole I think there were 14m odd viewers for the Hundred in 2022, that’s not a small number.

I’ll be honest I find it hard to engage with, but I’m not the target audience.

[Villan For Life]

We haven’t played enough white ball 50 over international cricket since 2019.

The ECB can’t get the balance between successful red and white ball teams right. From 2015 to 2019 the focus was on white ball cricket and the test side suffered, now the focus is on red ball cricket and white ball cricket has suffered. We play too many test matches, we’ve played 50 tests in the last four years. In that period South Africa have played 25 tests, New Zealand 29, Pakistan 30 and the Aussies/Indians 34. I love test cricket but we must get the balance right so that our red and white ball teams can prosper at the same time.