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Offline Meanwood Villa

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10005 on: July 20, 2023, 03:19:57 PM »
Let's just get the lead first!

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10006 on: July 20, 2023, 03:21:06 PM »
Right now this is what I think the point of bazball is, we're got them doubting their plans for how to bowl at us and we're milking runs because of it, Cummins is all over the place with the ball right now. I reckon this is exactly what we were trying to do at Lords but we just made a mess of it.

Lyon is a massive loss for them.  Him bowling tight overs from one end while they rotate the seamers from the other is their approach.  The seamers are now having to do a lot more work and it is now starting to show.

We lost Leach too. As important as Moeen has been thus far, he’d be playing for the Bears if Leach was fit.

Lyon is a top player but they’re paying the price of selecting him at the expense of the development of other players. Even Stuart MacGill took 200 plus test wickets and he shadowed Warne.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10007 on: July 20, 2023, 03:24:03 PM »
Let's just get the lead first!

That's my point, I'm not sure we will, if we could get to 5pm and be within touching distance of them we might well declare and push to get them out as quickly as we can and see if we can make a chase before the rain comes.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10008 on: July 20, 2023, 03:28:33 PM »
Let's just get the lead first!

That's my point, I'm not sure we will, if we could get to 5pm and be within touching distance of them we might well declare and push to get them out as quickly as we can and see if we can make a chase before the rain comes.

Right, see what you mean. Sounds a very Stokes thing to do so could well see it happening.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10009 on: July 20, 2023, 03:28:58 PM »
The Aussies look completely clueless here.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10010 on: July 20, 2023, 03:30:04 PM »
This one of those moment in this series - got to capitalise.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10011 on: July 20, 2023, 03:41:26 PM »
What an amazing session for England, 239-2 at tea. 178 runs in the session is phenomenal scoring

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10012 on: July 20, 2023, 03:42:18 PM »
What an amazing session for England, 239-2 at tea. 178 runs in the session is phenomenal scoring

Only 25 overs as well.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10013 on: July 20, 2023, 03:44:09 PM »
Right now this is what I think the point of bazball is, we're got them doubting their plans for how to bowl at us and we're milking runs because of it, Cummins is all over the place with the ball right now. I reckon this is exactly what we were trying to do at Lords but we just made a mess of it.

Lyon is a massive loss for them.  Him bowling tight overs from one end while they rotate the seamers from the other is their approach.  The seamers are now having to do a lot more work and it is now starting to show.

We lost Leach too. As important as Moeen has been thus far, he’d be playing for the Bears if Leach was fit.

Lyon is a top player but they’re paying the price of selecting him at the expense of the development of other players. Even Stuart MacGill took 200 plus test wickets and he shadowed Warne.

Sorry mate, point I was trying to make was that Lyon is central to their tactics and without him, cracks are starting to appear.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10014 on: July 20, 2023, 03:45:15 PM »
Right now this is what I think the point of bazball is, we're got them doubting their plans for how to bowl at us and we're milking runs because of it, Cummins is all over the place with the ball right now. I reckon this is exactly what we were trying to do at Lords but we just made a mess of it.

But I think that's where a bit of the criticism comes in. We absolutely have to blatter them out of the park here otherwise our chances of winning with the weather forecast are slim. We didn't need to be quite so gung ho at Lords, and a lot of the team were out to just plain bad shots. The overall approach is undoubtedly the right one, but sometimes it just needs tempering due to the conditions. The Woakes innings that won us the match in the last match was a case in point.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10015 on: July 20, 2023, 03:46:43 PM »
What an amazing session for England, 239-2 at tea. 178 runs in the session is phenomenal scoring

Tea has come at the wrong time for England as they were really speeding along then.  The evening session could be something special. 

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10016 on: July 20, 2023, 03:59:38 PM »
I truly would not like to be sat near the top of that temporary stand.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10017 on: July 20, 2023, 04:02:18 PM »
I truly would not like to be sat near the top of that temporary stand.

Not 8 pints in...

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10018 on: July 20, 2023, 04:24:03 PM »
They’re pressing on with this, it’s so good to see the Aussies virtually disintegrating before our eyes.

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Re: The International Cricket Thread
« Reply #10019 on: July 20, 2023, 04:25:15 PM »
Right now this is what I think the point of bazball is, we're got them doubting their plans for how to bowl at us and we're milking runs because of it, Cummins is all over the place with the ball right now. I reckon this is exactly what we were trying to do at Lords but we just made a mess of it.

But I think that's where a bit of the criticism comes in. We absolutely have to blatter them out of the park here otherwise our chances of winning with the weather forecast are slim. We didn't need to be quite so gung ho at Lords, and a lot of the team were out to just plain bad shots. The overall approach is undoubtedly the right one, but sometimes it just needs tempering due to the conditions. The Woakes innings that won us the match in the last match was a case in point.

I get that but what I mean isn't so much the match situation but rather that we were trying to get into Cummins head and make him do what he did for a big part of that session. I just think our plans revolve around encouraging teams to try something and then punishing them for it, it didn't quite work at Lords (but might've if the bairstow run out hadn't happened).

 


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