The International Cricket Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Just need 7 for about 50.

[olaftab]

Not a big cricket fan so need some help. I always though test cricket was adjusting your tactics in accordance with the position of the match. I understand England have more aggressive tactics now but just sticking to the plan come what may really the answer, its almost as if the result is incidental to them.

Yes you are right and you know more than you admit

[olaftab]

Just need 7 for about 50.

That's another hapball (when Bazball goes wrong) England will lose a Test match where Australia only had 9 wickets to play with.

[Paul.S]

Bowled nicely...but. I wonder if Amderson and Broad are just now done. We're so badly lacking in pace.

Honestly, Broad is on one of the unluckiest streaks I can remember, between this and the 4th innings at Edgebaston.

Anderson, however...breaks my heart to say it, but against real top-level batting he doesn't look to have the incision anymore.

There's just no threat at all anymore with Jimmy. I hope Wood is fit for the 3rd test.

Didn’t England ask for flatter wickets so suit their Baz Ball style? Maybe that’s come at a cost for the bowlers. Just a thought but I’d keep Anderson and Broad and replace Robinson with Wood and keep Broad and Anderson as first change bowlers. Wood and Tongue opening the bowling could soften the Aussies up for the better skills of Broad and Anderson.

[PaulWinch again]

Nah Robinson is still taking wickets and unless there’s an underlying fitness issue the overs in the legs will get him up to speed. I think people have got confused on him and forgotten he’s a very skilled bowler and when he’s operating at his proper level 82/83 mph he’s quality.

[Beard82]

I would drop Anderson for wood personally.  He’s been great - but we need more variety and I think Broad has that X factor at key points. 

Frustratingly we’re probably out of this series bar an epic turnaround.  Too many poor decisions at crucial times.

Yesterday afternoon and this morning really took hope from me - it’s just the comparison between how hard we have to work for a wicket and the way we just gift them - we’re looking prime Stevie G villa at the moment

[Meanwood Villa]

Well that was a shit day

[TelfordVilla]

Just proves you cannot take a 20/20 approach into an ashes series and expect anything other than a 5 nil whitewash

[aldridgeboy]

Nit current ashes , but an interesting documentary coming up with this between Botham and Chappell

https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1674712831487246336?s=46&t=jo4adbG13BgBUR97pIGxUA

[PaulWinch again]

Just proves you cannot take a 20/20 approach into an ashes series and expect anything other than a 5 nil whitewash

Thing is though it wasn’t 20/20 except for that hour.

Indicator of a side that knows they’ve had a bad day - send a coach out for the interview.

[PaulWinch again]

The other slightly naive thing getting peddled out now is the kind of message of, well you weren’t criticising when we were winning. Well obviously, but also it’s because in general there seemed to be method, calculation, and ruthlessness about us. In these first two Tests we’ve been really soft and just let Australia take the initiative and win one and probably another.

They might not be results driven, but ultimately they will live or die by results. If we get pumped 5-0, we won’t be bringing a new audience to cricket.

The frustration is it’s because I think they’ve got a bit lost and confused, I think the overarching idea is the right one. Also I think the Foakes thing sent a bit of a message of we’ll back you, but only if your one of our favourites.

[Exeter 77]

I think we need it to rain for quite a while at Lords tomorrow.

[KevinGage]

Smash bang Bazball and reinventing Test cricket is harder to do when you've got two fast bowlers who will be pensioned off in the not too distant and a captain with regular fitness/ injury worries.

[Beard82]

The other slightly naive thing getting peddled out now is the kind of message of, well you weren’t criticising when we were winning. Well obviously, but also it’s because in general there seemed to be method, calculation, and ruthlessness about us. In these first two Tests we’ve been really soft and just let Australia take the initiative and win one and probably another.

They might not be results driven, but ultimately they will live or die by results. If we get pumped 5-0, we won’t be bringing a new audience to cricket.

The frustration is it’s because I think they’ve got a bit lost and confused, I think the overarching idea is the right one. Also I think the Foakes thing sent a bit of a message of we’ll back you, but only if your one of our favourites.

I think this is where I am.  I think it is more about execution.

[OzVilla]

But it’s execution from a strange mindset that isn't adapting to the game situation or opposition. This is in the head as much as it is in the technique.