The International Cricket Thread

[LeeB]

We're at the sharp end now of relentlessly shite administration by a load of cloth eared, elitist, and all round racist twats, only interested in taking Sky's cash and keeping the riff-raff and any of the 'darkies' out of their game.

Fuck the lot of 'em.

[N'ZMAV]

the ECB is a aging white mans boys club - it needs radical reform - what a shambles.

[Lsvilla]

Well there we go. Root thinks we’ve played lots of brilliant cricket.

He should have been sat where I have been for the last 3 weeks. Apart from the charge for runs at Antigua and Barbados to set up declarations it's been very poor fayre. And our bowlers will get absolutely mullered in Pakistan. Pity their number 6 he's got very little chance of getting a bat.

[KevinGage]

Needs a shake up.

Fundamental change at all levels, yes.

But in the immediate future -if he can be persuaded there's enough quality to work with (not a given) go all out for Justin Langer.

Some of the older heads might not like his abrasive style, but fcuk it, they're not really in a position to argue after the last few years. They've had Trevor Bayliss and then Chris Silverwood telling them how special they are for all the good that's done.

Some of the recent selections have been bollocks as well.  Maybe leave one of Broad and Anderson at home (Anderson for the most recent series, if it's about managing his workload). Not both. Particularly as the decision seemed more about insulating Root's captaincy. Talk about the tail wagging the dog.

On that subject, I don't see how he stays on now. There isn't an obvious candidate if they avoid the two main bowlers, so it's the county scene - and the prospect of a Sam Billings or a Tom Abell learning on the job as captain at international level as well as handling the batting transition. Neither have incredible FC averages.

Marcus Trescothick will most likely still be part of the set up - particularly if Langer gets the gig - and he'll know Abell's game and leadership qualities at least.

[olaftab]

Well there we go. Root thinks we’ve played lots of brilliant cricket.

He should have been sat where I have been for the last 3 weeks. Apart from the charge for runs at Antigua and Barbados to set up declarations it's been very poor fayre. And our bowlers will get absolutely mullered in Pakistan. Pity their number 6 he's got very little chance of getting a bat.

Agreed mate. The problem is watching this live out here I could not see anything at all in the England set up up to make the difference. After the first two tests I said there will be no change in Grenada unless something happens that fundamentally impacts on type of cricket being played by two very ordinary teams. West Indies made that change and addition of Kyle Mayers turned the series in their favour. We did nothing to change anything  and deserved nothing.

[charlatan]

We're at the sharp end now of relentlessly shite administration by a load of cloth eared, elitist, and all round racist twats, only interested in taking Sky's cash and keeping the riff-raff and any of the 'darkies' out of their game.

Fuck the lot of 'em.

How did Mahmood get in the team? And before him Archer and Rashid? Were these administrators being so relentlessly shite that they didn't notice or are you talking bollocks?

[olaftab]

No Lee is not talking bollocks. Somethings are obvious and can not be denied such as Archer and Mahmood but in all honestly not enough is being done to allow the latent talent to come through. We need a change and not just at Yorkshire CC.

[Rory]

No Lee is not talking bollocks. Somethings are obvious and can not be denied such as Archer and Mahmood but in all honestly not enough is being done to allow the latent talent to come through. We need a change and not just at Yorkshire CC.

Apart from the results, did you enjoy yourself out there, Aftab? Always looks a great place to tour.

[olaftab]

Pig in shit mate. Thanks to Joe and Co we have had another great afternoon/evening on the beach😊

[Rory]

Pig in shit mate. Thanks to Joe and Co we have had another great afternoon/evening on the beach😊

Silver linings, eh 😁

[Lsvilla]

Pig in shit mate. Thanks to Joe and Co we have had another great afternoon/evening on the beach😊

When you heading home ? Be good to catch up for a quick beer if you have a chance. If only to talk about the summer signings !
We're booked in at Patrick's tomorrow evening then will probably head to umbrellas for an hour or so after just to see what's going on. No plans Tuesday at the moment. Fly Wednesday evening.

[OzVilla]

Where the hell do you start with this lot. Seriously, the lack of batting talent is quite astonishing.  This is not a few players just playing poor shots, they are simply technically and mentally unable to play at this level. 

The bowling is just bland, so many bowlers who are decent but just not quite good enough, lack that yard or 2 of pace or that ability to turn a game with a storming spell. We can't build pressure either as we bowl so many poor balls. 

Our fielding is atrocious, we just don't look switched on at all half the time, when was the last time a piece of fielding changed the momentum of an innings. And all the while we've been Captained by arguably the worst skipper we've had in my time following England. He has shown no tactical nous and just follows the ball.  His decision making is appalling.

All in all we are as far away now from becoming the best Test team in the world as I think we've ever been, I was around in the late 80's and 90's.





 

[olaftab]

Pig in shit mate. Thanks to Joe and Co we have had another great afternoon/evening on the beach😊

When you heading home ? Be good to catch up for a quick beer if you have a chance. If only to talk about the summer signings !
We're booked in at Patrick's tomorrow evening then will probably head to umbrellas for an hour or so after just to see what's going on. No plans Tuesday at the moment. Fly Wednesday evening.

Flying to Barbados early Tuesday morning for onward connection to Heathrow. Planning to be in Umbrellas later today. If we are not there we will be in shack over on the left by the beach. Hopefully see you there😊

[olaftab]

OzVilla you have summed it up. We know that this team lacks true international class and doesn’t actually play any red ball cricket. The task for Root was to get a performance out of what he had. Make 2 and 2 into 5 but I am afraid Root is sadly lacking in that department and he came up with a 3. So there are many challenges facing ECB. They need to do more to justify £90 a day that we the fans are paying for home test matches.

[tomd2103]

Don't know what everyone's so angry about. The lads will be disappointed, but will take away the positives. What more do you want?

Are you Paul Lambert?  Only thing missing was "We go again" at the end.

I think he was taking the piss.

I know, but it sounded exactly like the kind of tripe Lambert would come out with!

It's hard to see where we go from here really.  I heard Pietersen on the radio earlier saying Root wasn't to blame, as the players just aren't there.  I agree with that to a point, but it's the manner of the defeats and the way they have just given up at times which is alarming, and Root has to take responsibility for that.

On the bowling front, injuries to Archer, Wood, Robinson and Stone haven't helped, along with the decision to leave out Broad and Anderson.  On the batting front, we just can't find a top three who can deliver as a unit on anything like a consistent basis.  We've looked at so many options in those positions and some have scored runs at times, but they just seem to fold under pressure far too often.