The International Cricket Thread

[Nunkin1965]

This is getting very repetitive.
5-0 looks to be on the cards as we're just getting brushed aside without the Aussies seemingly needing to get out of first gear

[simboy]

Bloody bowlers …

[Jon Crofts]

Good T20 score that.
Embarrassing display yet again.

[Meanwood Villa]

Been searching unsuccessfully for that post from OzVilla about the bet he had on how many times we'd pass 200 in the series. Think it was 6? As in any less and he wins the bet. Money in the bank.

[PaulWinch again]

It's good in a way. Purging. No excuses. Many heads rolling overdue down the steps of the guillotine. In the long run, it can be helpful to have these tumbril moments.

Yeah I mean there’s two angles to look at this. Firstly there’s the direct stuff - the coaching, play just isn’t good enough. Our bowlers are our best part of the game, but let’s face it in general they need some help from conditions. The batting and fielding is amateur - save a few exceptions. The management and coaching set up is making the team less than the sum of its parts.

Then there’s the structural bit - first class cricket marginalised and played in spring and early autumn for the main. But the worst thing is poor pitches - they mean we’re not producing batsmen who know how to play long innings and it also makes ordinary bowlers look like world beaters.

[Ads]

England should have a development team that plays Sheffield Sheild.

[olaftab]

Look on the bright side. England only had one duck in the first innings and if they can keep it to 3 or fewer in the second they do not set a new record of most ducks in a calendar year. England had 54 in 1998.

[Gareth]

Never mind….the suits have the Hundred to earn the £’s

Can’t expect serious cricket to be any good when the shit & giggles stuff is the priority

Fur coat & lack of knickers springs to mind

[olaftab]

It's good in a way. Purging. No excuses. Many heads rolling overdue down the steps of the guillotine. In the long run, it can be helpful to have these tumbril moments.

For those who have destroyed the temple of Test match cricket a reckoning awaits but who will lead in face of embarrassing riches of fluff and straw, the short formats, to do something about it?

[Risso]

There's only so many times you can use T20 and the like as an excuse for England's ineptitude.

[LeeB]

There's only so many times you can use T20 and the like as an excuse for England's ineptitude.

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken didn't the nation that are currently humiliating us win that World Cup a few weeks ago?

[TopDeck113]

The, err, ducks are coming home to roost.  Too much focus on the short form of the game, the marginalisation of the county championship and the ECB taking Sky's shilling have all contributed.  Leaving aside the current situation regarding a global pandemic, another factor is the continual touring with one Test and short-form series straight after another. If players are expected to perform in non-English conditions, acclimatisation and meaningful warm-up games against decent opposition are required. In these days of sports science, psychologists and coaches for every facet of the game, I think that sometimes the bleeding obvious is overlooked.

[Nev]

When Butler was dismissed I don't think I have heard Agnew so angry, at one point I though he was going to call him something. There is a lot of frustration at the way the game is being run and the performance of the side both humiliating and predictable is the nadir for those who call out nonsense like the Hundred. The end is result is coming down the track but you can't do anything to stop it, that's what I heard in Aggers commentary. A simplified summary but relevant none the less.

[PaulWinch again]

I predict Australia will get around 400.

[Villafirst]

I predict Australia will get around 400.

Perhaps they'll struggle to get 200 now....?