The International Cricket Thread

[taylorsworkrate]

Brilliant declaration by NZ. An attacking move that gives us a sniff and should set up a cracking couple of sessions.

It's said so often that it's become a cliche, but NZ really do play their cricket in the right way.

They really are a great bunch of lads, it was pointed out on the Guardian website how their acceptance of the World Cup Final result meant it could be enjoyed properly.

Definitely. I said before that final and still feel that if scores are level after 50 overs, the side who took most wickets should win. Just my view.

But you're absolutely right, there was no bitching or moaning, they were true gentlemen.

In a way, it's a shame it had to be against NZ - winning in that way against Australia would've been much sweeter.

I get that point of view, but i've always felt its a false comparison given the different pressures in setting a target and chasing one.

[Rory]

Brilliant declaration by NZ. An attacking move that gives us a sniff and should set up a cracking couple of sessions.

It's said so often that it's become a cliche, but NZ really do play their cricket in the right way.

They really are a great bunch of lads, it was pointed out on the Guardian website how their acceptance of the World Cup Final result meant it could be enjoyed properly.

Definitely. I said before that final and still feel that if scores are level after 50 overs, the side who took most wickets should win. Just my view.

But you're absolutely right, there was no bitching or moaning, they were true gentlemen.

In a way, it's a shame it had to be against NZ - winning in that way against Australia would've been much sweeter.

I get that point of view, but i've always felt its a false comparison given the different pressures in setting a target and chasing one.

No, I understand why they do it the way they do. But I'm a bowler, so naturally I think batsmen get far too much credit in the white ball game 😉

[olaftab]

Come on England go for it. 30+ overs to knock over 200 or so.

[cdbearsfan]

Brilliant declaration by NZ. An attacking move that gives us a sniff and should set up a cracking couple of sessions.

It's said so often that it's become a cliche, but NZ really do play their cricket in the right way.

They really are a great bunch of lads, it was pointed out on the Guardian website how their acceptance of the World Cup Final result meant it could be enjoyed properly.

Definitely. I said before that final and still feel that if scores are level after 50 overs, the side who took most wickets should win. Just my view.

But you're absolutely right, there was no bitching or moaning, they were true gentlemen.

In a way, it's a shame it had to be against NZ - winning in that way against Australia would've been much sweeter.

The fairest method would have been to award the game to whichever team finished higher in the group stage, as they do in the semis. That would have been England. Any method involving boundaries or wickets is potentially unfair if the team batting second have a reduced number of overs.

[Rory]

A little disappointed that at no point did it look like we were even interested in getting the runs. Understandable, and we may have approached it differently if Stokes and Buttler had been in the team, but disappointing all the same.

[PaulWinch again]

Robinson suspended pending investigation.

[PaulWinch again]

There are so many questions for England at the moment. None of the new batsmen are really grabbing the opportunity and saying I must be picked. They all get the odd good score and then follow it up with a series of failures.

[Rory]

Robinson suspended pending investigation.

What did he actually say/tweet?

[olaftab]

Robinson suspended pending investigation.

What did he actually say/tweet?

I don't agree with this decision. He was 18/19 at the time and we all do lot of stupid things at that age but most of us come to completely regret those actions. Robinson is the same. This is show trial and the sort of decision that causes unnecessary resentment.  I can see it that it sends a message to other youngsters that you would be punished but, there, awareness through education is a better method. 

[PaulWinch again]

Robinson suspended pending investigation.

What did he actually say/tweet?

Some generally sexist remarks and also some racist remarks referencing Muslims and bombs I think.

[UK Redsox]

Robinson suspended pending investigation.

What did he actually say/tweet?

I don't agree with this decision. He was 18/19 at the time and we all do lot of stupid things at that age but most of us come to completely regret those actions. Robinson is the same. This is show trial and the sort of decision that causes unnecessary resentment.  I can see it that it sends a message to other youngsters that you would be punished but, there, awareness through education is a better method. 

If he regretted the Tweets, he could have deleted them and posted an apology years ago

[Chico Hamilton III]

He managed  the full suite of offensive tweets. The “N” word, a joke at “retarded” people, some laddish sexist nonsense and some Muslim stereotyping. And I was also appalled at his inappropriate apostrophe use and his inability to distinguish between “your/you’re”. Seriously though, I used this episode to remind my 15 year old lad that our cyber past can and does catch up with us. If nothing else, it’s a lesson for others not to be so stupid

[hipkiss92]

Robinson suspended pending investigation.

What did he actually say/tweet?

I don't agree with this decision. He was 18/19 at the time and we all do lot of stupid things at that age but most of us come to completely regret those actions. Robinson is the same. This is show trial and the sort of decision that causes unnecessary resentment.  I can see it that it sends a message to other youngsters that you would be punished but, there, awareness through education is a better method. 

Not unreasonable that he shouldn't be playing international cricket while the investigation is ongoing. Part of which is just to confirm whether he was contracted to a county at time, which determines what body sets the disciplinary action.

All came out on the morning England and NZ made a specific unity message as well.

There is a lot to be said for the ECB having not done their due diligence on the player beforehand however.

[paul_e]

I can't agree with the idea that this decision was over the top, etc. We're in a summer of sport where racial inequality is front and centre and this came to light at almost the same time as the England squad presenting a unity message.

Yes he was a teenager but that can't be an excuse for what were a series of horrible tweets that were offensive across a whole range of issues. As soon as they came to light the ECB had no choice but to suspend him, anything less would've shown that the unity message was nothing but empty words.

[cdbearsfan]

He was eighteen, more than old enough to know better. He should miss a game and do some public penance such as undertake an anti racism course, at least. Would be very awkward for some of his teammates to share a dressing room with him otherwise.