The International Cricket Thread

[taylorsworkrate]

Aussies going big on Paine wasting the review when the ball clearly pitched outside leg stump. It was an awful review granted.

The more I look at it however, I don't think the DRS got the Stokes one right. The ball seemed to be on a line with the outside of leg stump, maybe even missing completely when it hit Stokes front pad. The line after appears to show the ball deviating further after hitting the pad in a pretty illogical way.

Obviously its funnier that the Aussies have this to gripe about too.

It's made me think the system is actually nowhere near the reliability levels its creators would have us believe.

[PaulWinch again]

I did think at the time that I could see why Wilson didn’t give it. That was mainly because Stokes front leg was outside leg.

[taylorsworkrate]

Picture I've seen where the ball struck Stokes in line with leg stump. The ball was drifting towards the leg side, and whilst it did straighten, I don't think it straightened enough to clatter into middle and leg stumps which is what the ball tracking suggested.

Vaughan made an awful point too. He basically said that as England had a review left, Wilson should have given it out and if wrong the review would have overturned it. I think that is nonsense. For a start, that is rewarding the team that wasted their reviews. It removes the benefit of the doubt which every umpire surely has to factor in regardless of match situation. The umpire has to adjudicate every ball on its merits. He shouldn't be factoring in the state of the game or which team has a review left. If he thinks there is enough doubt to give it not out then he should do so.

I get that Joel Wilson has been atrocious in this series and really doesn't warrant his place on the elite panel, but for Vaughan to suggest umpires completely change their thought process on the back of this one instance is just daft.

[paul_e]

I hadn't seen this but having watched it 5-6 times at full speed I just can't tell which, for me, is enough to see why he didn't give it as out. Australia can sulk as much as they like but they wasted their review a few balls earlier and have had some similar decisions in their favour in this series so they need to get over it.

[Dr Butler]

with that big stride that Stokes put in, I would of given it not out unless it was either Smith/Bancroft/Warner

I thought in real time it was drifting down leg side.

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[hilts_coolerking]

It is tough titty for the Aussies but I thought it was plumb.

[olaftab]

Joe Wilson didn't give it because he's a decent human being and there is no way he wanted Australia to win.Full Stop. ...Sorry PERIOD.

[PaulWinch again]

Picture I've seen where the ball struck Stokes in line with leg stump. The ball was drifting towards the leg side, and whilst it did straighten, I don't think it straightened enough to clatter into middle and leg stumps which is what the ball tracking suggested.

Vaughan made an awful point too. He basically said that as England had a review left, Wilson should have given it out and if wrong the review would have overturned it. I think that is nonsense. For a start, that is rewarding the team that wasted their reviews. It removes the benefit of the doubt which every umpire surely has to factor in regardless of match situation. The umpire has to adjudicate every ball on its merits. He shouldn't be factoring in the state of the game or which team has a review left. If he thinks there is enough doubt to give it not out then he should do so.

I get that Joel Wilson has been atrocious in this series and really doesn't warrant his place on the elite panel, but for Vaughan to suggest umpires completely change their thought process on the back of this one instance is just daft.

Yep I was baffled by that point.

[UK Redsox]

When do they announce the squad for the 4th Test ?

[Villan For Life]

When do they announce the squad for the 4th Test ?

I think the announcement is today.

[taylorsworkrate]

Anderson ruled out for the summer. Craig Overton weirdly added to the squad and no changes to batsmen included.

Appears the selectors have fallen into trap of thinking everything is fine after the last test.

[Villan For Life]

Anderson ruled out for the summer. Craig Overton weirdly added to the squad and no changes to batsmen included.

Appears the selectors have fallen into trap of thinking everything is fine after the last test.

I agree with you but wonder who they could call up? With two huge tests to play it’s not the time for wholesale changes and hopefully Root, Stokes and Bairstow seem to have played themselves into some sort of form.

I think that they will tweak the batting line up with Root at 4, but otherwise I think that they will stick with the side that won at Headingley.

[UK Redsox]

I'd give Curran a run out in the next Test in place of Woakes

[Monty]

I think Curran would be the right call. Looking more reliable with the bat which matters with our flimsy top order, and would offer a different angle of attack. Plus Woakes looks shattered.

[Whiney MacWhineface]

Just seen Rahkeem Cornwall bowl his first over in Test Cricket (off spin) for the Windies. He looks like Frank Bruno after he'd eaten Colin Milburn. He's around 22 stone.