Dean Smith - Confirmed

[Risso]

I really don't understand why as a club, we persist in giving failing managers more time than they really ought to get. How often has it led to an upturn in form? And no, I don't count the covid gap, since that was an unprecedented situation.

But it’s 4 games. This isn’t Lambert.

If it was just four games we wouldn’t be three points off the bottom three.

[pauliewalnuts]

I really don't understand why as a club, we persist in giving failing managers more time than they really ought to get. How often has it led to an upturn in form? And no, I don't count the covid gap, since that was an unprecedented situation.

But it’s 4 games. This isn’t Lambert.

It’s ten games after which we are 15th.

[Monty]

I really don't understand why as a club, we persist in giving failing managers more time than they really ought to get. How often has it led to an upturn in form? And no, I don't count the covid gap, since that was an unprecedented situation.

But it’s 4 games. This isn’t Lambert.

It’s ten games after which we are 15th.

More than a quarter of the season. Not great.

[ozzjim]

And it's something like 39 games and 38 points without Joe since he's been here. Since new year we have been awful, not just the last 4 games. This is almost a year of poor form hidden by 3-4 eye catching scalps.

[SoccerHQ]

Let's say we give him Southampton. And then Palace and Brighton.

We could easily just get 1 point from 3 as Southampton have taken 7 points from last 9 and usually give us really tough games whatever the form. Brighton actually gone longer without a win in prem than we have but came from 2-0 down to get draw v Liverpool and also drew 0-0 with Arsenal and Palace starting to get results their play deserves.

We then sack him start of December with us in bottom 3. New manager then gets all of of Man. City, Leicester and Liverpool as his first 3 games so real danger we get no managerial bounce whatsoever.

I think we'll have to make a decision even if we grind out a point at Southampton otherwise we're pretty much writing off half a season and it's little more than relegation scrap.

Norwich are already gone so it's important to get a decent gap remaining over Newcastle before they sign half a new team in January.

3rd spot looks pretty open as Burnley are the type that usually go on a decent run once they win a game and likes of Leeds and Southampton are on good runs now.

[KRS]

I don’t see history repeating itself, but wasn’t the last time we played Southampton away following West Ham at home, that horrid 6-1 battering before the Arsenal cup final?

Anyways, I said it a week or so ago and my point stands…if the ambition of the owners is to remain as a mid table club with the occasional cup run then by all means stick with DS; if the ambition of the owners is to get us in to Europe then get rid as DS simply isn’t a good enough manager to get us there unfortunately.

[Big Ming]

Is it too soon to send for Big Sam?

[sid1964]

I watched Smith yesterday and he must have had 4 of his coaching team talking to him all at the same time, it seems to me that he is being influenced by others when he should be making all the decisions during the game.

[Mortimer's Bear]

I watched Smith yesterday and he must have had 4 of his coaching team talking to him all at the same time, it seems to me that he is being influenced by others when he should be making all the decisions during the game.

I noticed that too, surely it can't b helping him.

[Footy-Vill]

Dean allows that . Likes others to give an input.
Unfortunately it could be that these new coaches are struggling to impact the way JT and O'Kelly were.
And that maybe they have more to say

[Drummond]

Just read a stat. Smiths won 7 games in 29. How the hell is this man still in a job??

The 6 losses out of 10 I would concede is a little more concerning but am still hopeful with Dean of turning around.

The longer period stat of this 7 wins 29 matches isn't really a fair context as that's over from last season which is completely different.
So not fair to comment or judge on that to me.

Judge him by this season.

OK. This season had been a disaster, sack him now.

Well quite. If it weren't for his previous record he'd be in the same place as Nuno at Spurs.

[DB]

Lose next one and that should be it for him.

[Risso]

Lose next one and that should be it for him.

It should be it for him now.

[Footy-Vill]

I'll lose hope in Smith if we end up shoving one of the centre halves up front.
There's a breaking pont for us all.
I one for football and skills and quite frankly the throws are not needed clearly its not Dean Smith idea and his liberal leading and allowing coaches to implement methods is causing Smith issues.
I doubt he wanted the 3 at the back and would fanthom Shakespeare is the catalyst for that one so really Deano not being helped by these coaches around him.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'll lose hope in Smith if we end up shoving one of the centre halves up front.
There's a breaking pont for us all.
I one for football and skills and quite frankly the throws are not needed clearly its not Dean Smith idea and his liberal leading and allowing coaches to implement methods is causing Smith issues.
I doubt he wanted the 3 at the back and would fanthom Shakespeare is the catalyst for that one so really Deano not being helped by these coaches around him.

He needs to overrule his subordinates then, mate.