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Author Topic: Dean Smith - Confirmed  (Read 1067178 times)

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14415 on: September 21, 2021, 06:54:53 PM »
Does this help the formation debate...



Pretty conclusive

Yep. Bailey wasn't left back. No need to apologise.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14416 on: September 21, 2021, 08:21:30 PM »
Does this help the formation debate...



Pretty conclusive

Yep. Bailey wasn't left back. No need to apologise.

Never said he was, as you very well know.
Itís pretty conclusive that we were 3 at the back, which you said never happened, though.
No need to apologise
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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14417 on: September 21, 2021, 08:37:15 PM »
The donkey told the tiger, "The Villa played 5 at the back."

The tiger replied, "No, they played 3 ."

The discussion became heated, and the two decided to submit the issue to arbitration, so they approached the lion.

As they approached the lion on his throne, the donkey started screaming: ′′Your Highness, isn't it true that the Villa played 5 at the back?"

The lion replied: "If you believe it is true, the Villa played 5 at the back"

The donkey rushed forward and continued: ′′The tiger disagrees with me, contradicts me and annoys me. Please punish him."

The king then declared: ′′The tiger will be punished with 3 days of silence."

The donkey jumped with joy and went on his way, content and repeating ′′The Villa played 5 at the back, Iím right, Iím right..."

The tiger asked the lion, "Your Majesty, why have you punished me, after all, we know Villa played 3 at the back?"

The lion replied, ′′You know and saw that Villa played 3 at the back."

The tiger asked, ′′So why do you punish me?"

The lion replied, "That has nothing to do with the question of whether Villa played 5 or 3 at the back. The punishment is because it is degrading for a brave, intelligent creature like you to waste time arguing with an ass, and on top of that, you came and bothered me with that question just to validate something you already knew was true!"

The biggest waste of time is arguing with the fool and fanatic who doesn't care about truth or reality, but only the victory of his beliefs and illusions. Never waste time on discussions that make no sense. There are people who, for all the evidence presented to them, do not have the ability to understand. Others who are blinded by ego, hatred and resentment, and the only thing that they want is to be right even if they arenít.

When IGNORANCE SCREAMS, intelligence moves on

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14418 on: September 21, 2021, 08:37:53 PM »
Didn't Konsa slip across to right back for the last 15 minutes when Cash went off?  Or do I need to apologise too?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14419 on: September 21, 2021, 08:39:36 PM »
He did.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14420 on: September 21, 2021, 09:24:44 PM »
Does anyone have a link to a debate about Spurs' finances from 2009? I need something to pep me up after two days of this.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14421 on: September 21, 2021, 09:35:17 PM »
Does anyone have a link to a debate about Spurs' finances from 2009? I need something to pep me up after two days of this.
Who was our resident Spurs accountant? Was is Villadawg or something?

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« Reply #14422 on: September 21, 2021, 09:36:24 PM »
Does anyone have a link to a debate about Spurs' finances from 2009? I need something to pep me up after two days of this.
Who was our resident Spurs accountant? Was is Villadawg or something?

I think so, although there may have been a few others.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14423 on: September 21, 2021, 09:46:49 PM »
Thought so. Why was it such a debate? I do remember it but canít remember why it was such an interest (to some) here.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14424 on: September 21, 2021, 09:52:40 PM »
John, I think the Southgate point can be left aside. Nobody at club level seriously takes their cues from Southgate - he takes his from them, from people like Conte etc.

I know but there still is similarities whether we like it or not

And those similarities are very simple England and Villa are blessed with creative and attacking talent
So we had Buendia Bailey El ghazi Traore On the bench
After the first sub we had three Central defenders 2 full backs and a holding midfield Player (Nakamba)
With all those creative place still sitting on the bench

That is an absolute 100% fact unarguable you can put your head in the sand all you like and pretend otherwise but the game was turned on its head when he used one of those players exactly the same as Southgate did in the Euros

So Iím sorry but the similarity is there whether you like it or not
Iím not saying itís an exact copy Iím saying itís a similar tactic, Southgate uses 2 holding midfielders so there is a difference but like I keep saying itís not always about formations itís about players
Keeping your creative attacking players on the bench for an hour is a tactic used by Smith and Southgate over the last couple of games

Will it turn into the tactic of choice Iíve no idea

I think we need to judge this when Bailey is fully fit. If and when he is, hopefully by Saturday and Dean for example still leaves him on the bench, in favour of shoehorning in Hause for Tuanzebe, to maintain that shape, then id tend to agree with you, but weíll see.

Even if he is to abandon the 352 for certain games, for me the midfield 3 works loads better than mcginn and luiz sitting last year. So for me even when switching to a back four, id rather he kept a 3 in the middle and then an attacking 3, which means theres always going to be 3 of Watkins, Ings, Bailey, Beundia, Traore and El Ghazi on the bench.

Anything other than the 352 or 433 would leave us to wide open imo.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14425 on: September 21, 2021, 10:01:00 PM »
Thought so. Why was it such a debate? I do remember it but canít remember why it was such an interest (to some) here.

Let's not go there!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14426 on: September 21, 2021, 10:08:37 PM »
Does this help the formation debate...



Pretty conclusive

Yep. Bailey wasn't left back. No need to apologise.

Never said he was, as you very well know.
Itís pretty conclusive that we were 3 at the back, which you said never happened, though.
No need to apologise

You realise that's based on average position  throughout the whole game, yeah? I never said we didn't play three centre halves. Obviously we played three centre halves for most of it, just not the bit where we scored three goals. It does conclusively prove that we weren't playing 5-3-2 during those moments as had been previously asserted, as there is no way Bailey was full back.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2021, 10:12:18 PM by cdbullyweefan »

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14427 on: September 21, 2021, 11:44:06 PM »
Thought so. Why was it such a debate? I do remember it but canít remember why it was such an interest (to some) here.
Ha ha! No quite.

Let's not go there!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14428 on: September 22, 2021, 12:18:18 AM »
Hope Villadawg is ok. He and Danlanza probably unlikely buddies by a pool now discussing where it went wrong with H&V.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14429 on: September 22, 2021, 12:23:08 AM »
I'd imagine danlanza's thoughts on the origin of Covid and its vaccines might be interesting.

 


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