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Offline ROBBO

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13995 on: August 15, 2021, 11:21:27 AM »
Agreed, but Bailey is the first Villa player in a long time that that i have thought might be top drawer, apart from Grealish. We need more.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13996 on: August 15, 2021, 11:37:21 AM »
I was a little perplexed yesterday to why El Ghazi and Young were picked ahead of both Bailey and Bert?

Yes, I get that one had only been in the country a few days and the other was coming back from injury, but why were they on the bench if they did not intend to be used? Surely, it would have been better to player them from the start and get at least one half out of them than expecting them to come on and rescue the game at 3-0 down?

I honestly believe we would never never of been 3-0 nil down if he had gone with Leon and Bert from the start.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13997 on: August 15, 2021, 11:37:36 AM »
Edited as can’t be arsed arguing
« Last Edit: August 15, 2021, 11:44:40 AM by wince »

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13998 on: August 15, 2021, 11:47:26 AM »
Some folk make me feel ashamed to follow my club
We have lost one game and the haters are out already
Pre season has been very unfortunate with cancelled game’s departures of players and staff together with several being unavailable this week
Suggest the haters either get back in their box or go follow another team as they are not true supporters

That was a shit performance yesterday - as bad as I’ve seen for a while. Most of the people around us were pissed off at the performance and complete lack of cohesiveness. If we want to be the top 6 club that a lot on here think we should be, then we have to judge the team as such.

Also, I  think it’s against forum rules to play the “better fan” card by telling people to support another club. You’re no better a fan than anyone else who watched that tripe yesterday.
He’s just giving the opposite extreme opinion to some of the opinions stated on this thread. That’s fair enough on a forum, to hear both sides of the debate. To be honest I’m leaning more on his side. But don’t expect everyone to listen to one extreme without putting an equally extreme view in opposition

Offline mrfuse

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #13999 on: August 15, 2021, 11:51:48 AM »
I was a little perplexed yesterday to why El Ghazi and Young were picked ahead of both Bailey and Bert?

Yes, I get that one had only been in the country a few days and the other was coming back from injury, but why were they on the bench if they did not intend to be used? Surely, it would have been better to player them from the start and get at least one half out of them than expecting them to come on and rescue the game at 3-0 down?

I honestly believe we would never never of been 3-0 nil down if he had gone with Leon and Bert from the start.


I think they were on the Bench in the case of we will only use them if we really need to get out of a mess. Turns out we were in a bigger mess than expected.
« Last Edit: August 15, 2021, 11:56:21 AM by mrfuse »

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14000 on: August 15, 2021, 11:54:53 AM »
Strange many call a Villa fan leaving the club a rat, but also start pushing for another Villa fan to be sacked after one game of the season. I get it's a result game, but we could at least try and be more patient with a Villa man who has so far been very successful.

The Villa fan part is completely irrelevant. Ratboy is a rat because he was happy enough to sign a new five year contract last year, then has seemingly spent every second since working on his move away. Dean Smith is a manager who has done well so far, but who seemingly really struggles to get a tune out of a Villa team without Greasy in it. If he proves to not be up to the task this year, he'll be gone.

I agree if he doesn't deliver he'll lose his job. But loyalty goes both ways, which includes showing some patience rather than jumping in to call for Smith to be sacked after one game. There's a long season ahead.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14001 on: August 15, 2021, 12:08:32 PM »
I was a little perplexed yesterday to why El Ghazi and Young were picked ahead of both Bailey and Bert?

Yes, I get that one had only been in the country a few days and the other was coming back from injury, but why were they on the bench if they did not intend to be used? Surely, it would have been better to player them from the start and get at least one half out of them than expecting them to come on and rescue the game at 3-0 down?

I honestly believe we would never never of been 3-0 nil down if he had gone with Leon and Bert from the start.


I doubt either would have been able to last 90 minutes. By bringing them off the bench they are up against opponents who have already put in an hours worth of effort so it’s an easier introduction for players who are not 100% match fit.

Those two plus Watkins and potentially Luiz could be ready to start next week which should improve us significantly.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14002 on: August 15, 2021, 12:13:38 PM »
Strange many call a Villa fan leaving the club a rat, but also start pushing for another Villa fan to be sacked after one game of the season. I get it's a result game, but we could at least try and be more patient with a Villa man who has so far been very successful.
Who has called for Smith to be sacked ?

Offline Ketzster

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14003 on: August 15, 2021, 12:13:46 PM »
Under Smith, the only thing that has ever resolved poor spells of form has been Grealish returning from injury. More concerning is the fact that Smith never even looked close to coming up with a solution when Grealish was out. So I’m not sure where the confidence comes from that Smith will sort it out this time. When Chelsea and Man City were at the beginning of their dominance with new owners, they were ruthless with managers. I always think we might be wasting the opportunity with Smith. The concern is if we finish in the bottom half of the table again and players leave, will the owners have the same enthusiasm or does the opportunity that was there pass us by? I’m really not bothered whether Smith is a Villa fan. We’re all Villa fans and would love the chance to manage the club too, but it wouldn’t mean we are up to the task. I’d much rather have the best possible person for the job

Offline Chico Hamilton III

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14004 on: August 15, 2021, 12:16:01 PM »
Some folk make me feel ashamed to follow my club
We have lost one game and the haters are out already
Pre season has been very unfortunate with cancelled game’s departures of players and staff together with several being unavailable this week
Suggest the haters either get back in their box or go follow another team as they are not true supporters

That was a shit performance yesterday - as bad as I’ve seen for a while. Most of the people around us were pissed off at the performance and complete lack of cohesiveness. If we want to be the top 6 club that a lot on here think we should be, then we have to judge the team as such.

Also, I  think it’s against forum rules to play the “better fan” card by telling people to support another club. You’re no better a fan than anyone else who watched that tripe yesterday.
He’s just giving the opposite extreme opinion to some of the opinions stated on this thread. That’s fair enough on a forum, to hear both sides of the debate. To be honest I’m leaning more on his side. But don’t expect everyone to listen to one extreme without putting an equally extreme view in opposition

I’ve never told a Villa fan who disagrees with me to go and support another club.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14005 on: August 15, 2021, 12:16:31 PM »
Jesus, physiotherapists across the Midlands will be raking it in with all the jerked knees going off this weekend.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14006 on: August 15, 2021, 12:18:26 PM »
Under Smith, the only thing that has ever resolved poor spells of form has been Grealish returning from injury. More concerning is the fact that Smith never even looked close to coming up with a solution when Grealish was out. So I’m not sure where the confidence comes from that Smith will sort it out this time. When Chelsea and Man City were at the beginning of their dominance with new owners, they were ruthless with managers. I always think we might be wasting the opportunity with Smith. The concern is if we finish in the bottom half of the table again and players leave, will the owners have the same enthusiasm or does the opportunity that was there pass us by? I’m really not bothered whether Smith is a Villa fan. We’re all Villa fans and would love the chance to manage the club too, but it wouldn’t mean we are up to the task. I’d much rather have the best possible person for the job

The confidence comes because the signings of Bailey, Buendia and Ings should give us better options this season.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14007 on: August 15, 2021, 12:19:06 PM »
I think most people thought the first 3 fixtures gave us a pretty easy start to the season. The problem is, if you don’t win those then you then have the harder games and you can end up being a long way behind and not being able to catch up. It isn’t just one game, it’s been a recurring problem for Smith without Grealish. I don’t think he will find an answer because he never has regarding that problem. I think he will be gone before the end of October
It was always going to be a tough game against a newly-promoted side, away. We have 5 new players to integrate, players coming back late from international tournaments and a talismanic player to do without. Also, we're two coaches light.
We will get better, as long as the coaching team recognise what needs to be done, quickly, to improve fitness and energy levels. The game against Brentford really will test our ability to press and withstand the press.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14008 on: August 15, 2021, 12:20:27 PM »
Smith has made great calls with the coaches.

We've got some great players in, who aren't yet fit or bedded into a system. We've lost a great player. Our main striker was out.

We've played one game.

Pre season has been shortened by Copa America, Olympics and Euros and then we lost our main friendly to covid.

Ings scored. Bailey got an assist to a great McGinn finish. We showed signs (when it was too late but still, it was an improvement).

Smith will be fine.



Some great excuses there mate for an abject performance against a club tipped for relegation
I know you’ve got a large back catalogue but I am hoping you’re not going to be dipping into too much this season

I've not said it was a good performance. But as usual, you seem. To thrive on finding fault and then calling others out. I've also said before when I've got it wrong, have you? I guess not because if you're always calling managers out and for them to go, you'll be proven right one day.

They are tipped for relegation and we're tipped for mid - table. We'll win some, we'll lose some, but to start calling Smith out after one game is boring and predictable.

I'd also hope you're not using your usual moaning every week too, and that we win more than we lose.

I do pick on you a bit because I know you don’t mind and can take it

if it’s rubbish I’ll say it’s rubbish
If it’s a 7-2 Liverpool job I’ll say it’s was brilliant

Bottom line for me is I think we should be doing better, even in the last two seasons I think we’ve underachieved
I know others are satisfied but we all have are own opinions

the worst thing about yesterday is that Watford we’re rubbing their hands playing us first up
and that should never be the case








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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #14009 on: August 15, 2021, 12:34:53 PM »
We are too nice a team. Jedinak was the last player to have a proper aggressive presence. We need someone like that in the squad.

 


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