Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 12, 2020, 07:25:47 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 06:32:44 PMQuote from: Risso on July 12, 2020, 01:36:03 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 01:25:41 PMI don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did. You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?Some posts don't age well.And if anyone's going to drag them up, it'll be you.And if anyone's going to defend it.... Etc etc.He's not been brilliant for us, if only he'd nailed that chance the other night. But this is at least a step in the right direction.
Quote from: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 06:32:44 PMQuote from: Risso on July 12, 2020, 01:36:03 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 01:25:41 PMI don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did. You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?Some posts don't age well.And if anyone's going to drag them up, it'll be you.
Quote from: Risso on July 12, 2020, 01:36:03 PMQuote from: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 01:25:41 PMI don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did. You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?Some posts don't age well.
Quote from: Clampy on July 12, 2020, 01:25:41 PMI don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did. You don't mind that a player had one shot and contributed absolutely nothing else for 90 minutes?
I don't mind Treseguet starting. He was unlucky not to score the other night although that's the only thing he did.
One-upmanship is nothing new on here.
Quote from: AsTallAsLions on July 12, 2020, 07:37:06 PMOne-upmanship is nothing new on here.if you don't like it nobody's making you stay.
I'm not defending it etc. We've all posted stuff on here that later turned out to be foolish. I certainly have, you have, Clampy has. Do we really want to go down that route?
Quote from: hilts_coolerking on July 12, 2020, 07:35:17 PMI'm not defending it etc. We've all posted stuff on here that later turned out to be foolish. I certainly have, you have, Clampy has. Do we really want to go down that route?We all say stuff in the heat of the moment. Of course I've got things wrong. I defend managers longer than most on here, with some, I'm sure I've been wrong, others I'm not so sure.What I do know is that we need some stability, we need to see a project through. We were always likely to be hovering around the lower reaches of the table this season, and our manager was bound to make mistakes, as were the players. Unfortunately, the players have made errors at crucial times and cost us a lot of points. I happen to think that Smith shouldn't lose his job over it.We've been in a situation with a lot of inexperience at the same time and that doesn't help. I really thought we'd have done better than we have coming back in this scenario, but it hasn't worked out like that.In my view, even if we go down, I think Smith should stay; there are too many mitigating circumstances to make him lose his job.
Admittedly against a very mediocre Palace side, we got lucky with the Hause injury (no slur on Hause here).We also seemed to profit from both Hourihane and Grealish being deployed further up the pitch. Was this Smith responding to the opposition or him stumbling across a winning strategy?When we win so many free kicks, why have we not found a way to play Hourihane more regularly, since he seems head and shoulders above anyone else in delivering the ball into dangerous places?Nakamba looked better when he came into a winning team yesterday .... playing on the front foot seems to suit everyone!I put these up as examples of either Smith getting tactically sharper (eventually) or a series of serendipitous events that conspired to make us look good!Would the real Dean Smith please stand up?!
I've gone back and forth on Smith over the last 6months but as I said the other day the way we gave up once Man U got their penalty was the tipping point for me. I saw nothing from Smith to show he had any idea how to handle that and I just don't think we can carry that inexperience any more. If we were a slightly older team of people who'd been around this league for a few years we could ride it out and let him take some time to learn from his mistakes but as is the management and players are feeding each other and dragging us below the standard I think this squad is capable of. Replacing the manager is cheaper, quicker and easier than the alternative so for me he goes after the west ham game regardless of what league we're in at that point.