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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6435 on: February 17, 2020, 01:04:14 PM »
Subbing Samatta was pointless, Drinkwater knackered so fair enough, we needed more legs in midfield so Hourihane for AEG would have been a better idea

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6436 on: February 17, 2020, 01:06:03 PM »
AEG was having a stormer and Samatta didn't need subbing yesterday.

Smith's biggest mistake is in not bringing in a proper defence coach - this is what will cause our demise, not his substitutions.
Please explain what is needed to be defensively coached.



Our offside trap was abysmal yesterday. Completely failed.

In the first half we were well on top and Spurs had 35% possesion in first half hour yet they were still getting through from one ball over the top on 4-5 occasions.

I can't believe it would've been as bad if Mings was out there telling them when to push up or drop deep.

We just lack leaders and organisers in defence. There's only so much Reina can do being thirty yards away.

Now for DS the situation is this...will we set up in exactly the same manner v Chelsea, Arsenal and Man. United or will he modify things? That's what good coaches do. If he dosen't I fear the pace in the Arsenal and Man. United front three will score even when we're having good spells like yesterday and those will be two hard luck stories. Newcastle showed very recently v Chelsea you can beat them if you sit back and put men behind the ball.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6437 on: February 17, 2020, 01:09:39 PM »
Another point on smith why the helm did he puss so many peope foraard at such a vital stage of the game?? Jesus there is no way with 90 seconds left we should only havetwo have players back.

His naive and quite frankly idiotic decisions at times are costing us points. A point and a gaol goal conceded could be vital come end of season


Watford.


And Brighton. Where a defender scored the winner in the 94th minute, when perhaps he should have been in his own half securing the point?

That was a little different. Free kick on halfway line so always a good chance for ball to get in the box and see what happens. Even if Watford had cleared they'd have been no time to get up the pitch.

We should've just accepted the point, it would've been more than decent. Can't believe given we still had 5 defenders on the pitch there wasn't much cover once Engels had played himself out of the game.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6438 on: February 17, 2020, 01:10:34 PM »
The problem isn't really with the defence, it's the midfield.  From the point of view of offering any sort of protection, it's utterly shit.  You've got Luiz who is good on the ball, but can't tackle, and Drinkwater who is one of the slowest players we've had in years.  Nakamba can tackle, but makes too many bad decisions with the ball.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6439 on: February 17, 2020, 01:10:42 PM »
Another point on smith why the helm did he puss so many peope foraard at such a vital stage of the game?? Jesus there is no way with 90 seconds left we should only havetwo have players back.

His naive and quite frankly idiotic decisions at times are costing us points. A point and a gaol goal conceded could be vital come end of season


Watford.


And Brighton. Where a defender scored the winner in the 94th minute, when perhaps he should have been in his own half securing the point?

That was a little different. Free kick on halfway line so always a good chance for ball to get in the box and see what happens. Even if Watford had cleared they'd have been no time to get up the pitch.

We should've just accepted the point, it would've been more than decent. Can't believe given we still had 5 defenders on the pitch there wasn't much cover once Engels had played himself out of the game.

Hindsight United won again, I see.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6440 on: February 17, 2020, 01:20:17 PM »
Another point on smith why the helm did he puss so many peope foraard at such a vital stage of the game?? Jesus there is no way with 90 seconds left we should only havetwo have players back.

His naive and quite frankly idiotic decisions at times are costing us points. A point and a gaol goal conceded could be vital come end of season


Watford.


And Brighton. Where a defender scored the winner in the 94th minute, when perhaps he should have been in his own half securing the point?

That was a little different. Free kick on halfway line so always a good chance for ball to get in the box and see what happens. Even if Watford had cleared they'd have been no time to get up the pitch.

We should've just accepted the point, it would've been more than decent. Can't believe given we still had 5 defenders on the pitch there wasn't much cover once Engels had played himself out of the game.

Hindsight United won again, I see.

Well if we have a goal kick in 93rd minute in remaining games this season and we don't concede a goal thirty seconds later then it will be a good thing.

I certainly wasn't calling for us to go forward at that stage yesterday. Was more than happy with the 2-2 considering how the last 20 minutes of the game had gone. Was delighted when Winks fired over from the wide free kick and naively thought we'd be o.k given there was a minute left.

We do have an incredible ability to always find new ways of losing these types of fixtures season in season out. Felt like it ever since we lost that awful cup game to Man. United in 2002.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6441 on: February 17, 2020, 01:24:45 PM »
I was happy for us not to fuck up in the last minute against Watford. 55 seconds later I was bouncing up and down with sheer delight. The same goes for Leicester. These things happen and it's what Dean Smith does - he was loved for it last season and he's being castigated for it now.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6442 on: February 17, 2020, 01:47:22 PM »
I was happy for us not to fuck up in the last minute against Watford. 55 seconds later I was bouncing up and down with sheer delight. The same goes for Leicester. These things happen and it's what Dean Smith does - he was loved for it last season and he's being castigated for it now.

Just because something worked in the Championship doesn't mean it's going to be successful in the Premier League.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6443 on: February 17, 2020, 01:47:26 PM »
No team has scored more 90th minute goals than us this season.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6444 on: February 17, 2020, 01:53:20 PM »
No team has scored more 90th minute goals than us this season.

Great.   Two of those were consolation goals in piss poor defeats.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6445 on: February 17, 2020, 01:55:55 PM »
And three of them were winners, one of them also made Villa Park explode on a barmy late summer evening.

I think people need a dose of that belief and resolution again for the fight to come.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6446 on: February 17, 2020, 02:00:47 PM »
Another point on smith why the helm did he puss so many peope foraard at such a vital stage of the game?? Jesus there is no way with 90 seconds left we should only havetwo have players back.

His naive and quite frankly idiotic decisions at times are costing us points. A point and a gaol goal conceded could be vital come end of season


Watford.


And Brighton. Where a defender scored the winner in the 94th minute, when perhaps he should have been in his own half securing the point?

We comparing brighton and watford to spurs? It was a bsd mistake by smith in my opinion knowing the quality spurs possess.

That dropped point and goal could vital come end of season.  He needs to stop gambling its costing us big time.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6447 on: February 17, 2020, 02:04:34 PM »
Sometimes last minute winners work for you, sometimes they work against you, that's football and most football fans would accept that. We deserved at least a point from yesterday's entertaining game and would have got one but for an unfortunate error. Heads up the Villa players and Deano and take the frustration of yesterday's loss out on Soton next Saturday. UTV!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6448 on: February 17, 2020, 02:16:22 PM »
AEG was having a stormer and Samatta didn't need subbing yesterday.

Smith's biggest mistake is in not bringing in a proper defence coach - this is what will cause our demise, not his substitutions.
Please explain what is needed to be defensively coached.
- not playing such a high line when the central centre-back is short of pace
- not playing such a high line when the opposition's front three are grease-lightning speed
- defending corners and other set pieces in range of the penalty area
- distributing the ball from the back

When our goals-conceded is the worst in the division and our previous season also saw a poor defensive return (in terms of goals-conceded), I'd say there's a problem with our defence-coaching. It may be the players we have, but inidividually each have skills that suggest they could be decent. I personally believe that it is coaching that is an issue.
Yes, midfield does not offer the best cover to our defence; yes, we need a better-than-average DMF.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #6449 on: February 17, 2020, 02:34:14 PM »
Another point on smith why the helm did he puss so many peope foraard at such a vital stage of the game?? Jesus there is no way with 90 seconds left we should only havetwo have players back.

His naive and quite frankly idiotic decisions at times are costing us points. A point and a gaol goal conceded could be vital come end of season


Watford.


And Brighton. Where a defender scored the winner in the 94th minute, when perhaps he should have been in his own half securing the point?

We comparing brighton and watford to spurs? It was a bsd mistake by smith in my opinion knowing the quality spurs possess.

That dropped point and goal could vital come end of season.  He needs to stop gambling its costing us big time.

I'm not comparing Spurs as a team to Brighton as a team, I'm merely pointing out that the "bad mistake" as you put it, of trying to win the game late on was something that got us wins against Watford and Brighton.

I also don't know where you get the idea that we only had two players back? Look at the position of our back three as the ball is played forward.  Nothing really wrong with their position, and Nakamba well placed for the second ball, it's just that Son anticipated a mistake, and the other two central defenders didn't.  It was a technical mistake, not a tactical one. 

It doesn't matter how many defenders you have back level with Engels, if the only one anticipating the miskick is Son, he gets through on goal every single time.



 


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