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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3510 on: February 16, 2019, 06:52:47 PM »
VCTM, and the alternative is?

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3511 on: February 16, 2019, 06:54:07 PM »
The trouble is I can't see where the next win is coming from.  None of the next five look like very winnable.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3512 on: February 16, 2019, 06:55:36 PM »
The trouble is I can't see where the next win is coming from.  None of the next five look like very winnable.

Looking at the fixtures it might not be before Rotherham away, and that’s in April!

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3513 on: February 16, 2019, 06:55:47 PM »
The trouble is I can't see where the next win is coming from.  None of the next five look like very winnable.
Not sure it matters, this season is over.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3514 on: February 16, 2019, 06:57:02 PM »
He should be. At least he has a long term strategy.

Offline LukeJames

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3515 on: February 16, 2019, 07:00:23 PM »
I genuinly don't know what he can do in this situation. Its clear to us all that 4-3-3 isn't working and I get the calls for 4-4-2 but then its still 2 of the useless ****** in the middle, who the fuck would you play there? Any combination is utterly dreadful (probably a bit harsh on McGinn but he cant do the work of 2 every fucking week).
We could try 3-5-2 , but then who the fuck plays as wing backs? Once again its an utterly frightful thought.
I cant fucking wait for this season to end and for the vast majority to never step foot in Villa Park again.

Offline Allan C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3516 on: February 16, 2019, 07:03:26 PM »
I agree that the likes of Hologram, Whelan, Jedinak and BB shouldn't be any where near the squad, but who is Smith supposed to replace them with during the season? As far as I can see, he doesn't have any options and his hands are tied until the season is over.
Absolutely correct. We are currently stuck with a poor mid-table squad and it makes me laugh when people knock Smith for not getting more out of them. I ask those people how do you get more out of them???

Offline Allan C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3517 on: February 16, 2019, 07:07:19 PM »
I suppose we shouldn't be surprised - appoint a manager who normally achieves mid table finishes and you get ......
Yes he has had to put up with the loss of injured players but according to some posters on here we have the strongest squad in the league :(
I think he has hid behind the loss of Grealish - yes he is our key player but we have placed an over reliance on the player - like all of us I want Smith to succeed and he needs time but the clock is already ticking- let's  face it the club is in a mess again and some leadership is required
It staggers me that people ever thought that this was the strongest squad in the league. It’s nowhere near it

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3518 on: February 16, 2019, 07:07:47 PM »
VCTM, and the alternative is?
Probably drugs and alcohol :)
Patience is key but that is in short supply especially in the modern game and life in general - I've been led to believe that these owners are " the real deal"  and have a vision for the club .....right now I'm struggling to see light at the end of the tunnel
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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3519 on: February 16, 2019, 07:09:23 PM »
Smith is a passenger until the summer. Then he hits the driving seat with his own squad. Guardiola spoke last week about how hard it is to change a style of play. Stick with him, support him and see what happens next season.

Sorry I accept it may not be ideal now for him, but equally he can’t just absolve responsibility. It’s fucking garbage and he needs to show he can adapt.

Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3520 on: February 16, 2019, 07:09:53 PM »
VCTM, and the alternative is?
Probably drugs and alcohol :)
Patience is key but that is in short supply especially in the modern game and life in general - I've been lead to believe that these owners are " the real deal"  and have a vision for the club .....right now I'm struggling to see light at the end of the tunnel
Feel the same mate and like you hoping that this time it will be different. UTV.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3521 on: February 16, 2019, 07:13:44 PM »
One of the problems is that we keep seeing certain players who have not delivered starting week after week.

Hourihane has been having a nightmare for months and Whelan is past it but there they are, every week.

I know we are not over endowed with midfield options but we do have them - he used one when he yanked Hourihane today.

But what is the betting Hourihane and Whelan start next week?

That's what I don't get. The repeated use of players who just don't deliver, in largely the same system.

I just don't see how that ever magically starts working beyond the odd scrappy point.


Offline Allan C

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3522 on: February 16, 2019, 07:15:09 PM »
No, that doesn't work for me. They may be limited but most of them were here under Bruce and came within a game of promotion. That doesn't make them good, or even make the football good, but they did work in a certain system and are certainly capable of the basics. Why should Smith get a nod of sympathy for not recognising that?
It should work for you. That team also had Terry and Snodgrass and a performing Grealish and still couldn’t get there. Take those away and you’re left with what we have now.

Offline KRS

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3523 on: February 16, 2019, 07:16:37 PM »
Unfortunately I don't think he can make wholesale changes. Our best young players are out on loan, and he must know that performances/results will be even worse if he drops these so called first team players.

@VCTM - please don't try and under value the loss of Grealish and Axel, and don't listen to anyone that claims we have the strongest squad in the league. Any team would miss both of those players and they were instrumental to the performances and results when Smith first came in. Without them we are a poor average mid table Championship team because that is the level of the players we have left.
I acknowledge that but if any team\club That  relies too heavily on one or two players you are screwed when they are not available - surely that's the point of a large squad - having adequate replacements - for me the issue is that we don't have a strong Team, prepared to work hard for each other - Leeds, Norwich and Sheffield Utd are tight knit units bursting a gut to get the right results - for us there is the get out that we are missing our two best players but surely that does explain the massive decline in performances since they've been unavailable - maybe that's what we will see next season - a whole new batch of hard working younger players - but it's gonna take longer than a summer to knit them together as a team - two seasons I would guess - will Smith be afforded that time? I think not
I asked the same question weeks ago and only seen performances get worse and worse...each week it has been "our worst performance" until the next game. The simple answer to this conundrum is the one that is staring in the face, and that is losing our 2 best players in Jack and Axel does make a difference. This league is full of shite teams that can beat each other on any given day, and that is personified by the team currently occupying the top 6 places...if you're missing 2-3 of your best players then that makes a whole world of difference to performances and results when the rest of the squad is so average.

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Re: Dean Smith - Confirmed
« Reply #3524 on: February 16, 2019, 07:17:29 PM »
Smith is a passenger until the summer. Then he hits the driving seat with his own squad. Guardiola spoke last week about how hard it is to change a style of play. Stick with him, support him and see what happens next season.

The issue with that ozzjim is he is looking increasingly hapless and hopeless.

As a Villa fan it might be hitting him even harder, I don't know. But much more of this over the remainder of the season might break him. 

He's unlikely to be able to sign 11+ new players this summer, so there will have to be some pragmatism and aptitude to make the new signings he does make mesh with at least some of the existing team.

I could see like someone like Brendan Rodgers doing that (not saying he'd be interested in the job).

I'm not sure I can see the current incumbent do that. 


 


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