Dean Smith - Confirmed

[The Edge]

So, the manager has one defined style of play, and imposes this on players he knows are not capable of playing it? How's that likely to turn out?

Not only that. When we're losing, against a shit Wigan side, he decides to bring on the very player least likely to ever be able to play 'his way'?

And that's good management?

I call it not having a plan B.

Dean Smith has been brought in to make us a better and more attractive team to watch. To get us promoted asap playing an attractive brand of football. His style is to play attacking fluid football and we were all thrilled when we battered Derby, Middlesboro & WBA and who can forget the 5-5 v forest? Intoxicating stuff. He will plough on regardless until we have the team built in his image. He's implementing it come what may. Doubting him already and questioning whether he has a "plan b" is playing up to our "fickle" reputation. Admittedy mistakes are being made but I can forgive him as he is desperately trying to polish the turd of a squad that Steve Bruce left him with. The bigger picture is full houses at Villa Park watching us playing with style and panache and marching back into the Premier league. Rome wasn't built in a day though was it?

You mean a squad that Smith has said is the best he's managed.  Also a squad many of the Bruce haters were saying should be perofming better and that any manager would be able to get performing better.

Howcome now we are performing worse than we were under Bruce it's all Bruce left a shit squad etc... Which is the total opposite to what they were saying when Bruce was here.

What do you expect Dean Smith to say? Would you expect him to start his new job by slagging off the players? It's Brucies squad however you look at it. He left us with a shocking defence including 3 right backs, no centre half cover, a crap left back and poss poor cover in the goalkeeping position. An ageing midfield that includes a totally ineffective Hourihane and a geriatric pair in Whelan and Jedinack. So yeah I'd call that a turd of a squad that Bruce left us which Deano has had 3 fkn months to work with and half a transfer window to sort it.

Nice bit of history changing there but the main narrative when Bruce was in charge was that this was the best squad in the championship who any other club would love to have and that any manager would be able to get better performance and results out of.

You can deny it all you want but you know that is what was being said.

History changing? Which bit? Also when Bruce was in charge the squad included Johnson, Terry, Snodgrass and Grabban. That's not the squad he left us with. Without Johnson and Terry our defence is very poor by comparison and completely unbalanced which Bruce did NOTHING to rectify.

[LeeB]

It's definately Steve posting in disguise.

The 'stuart' bit is a thin disguise for 'steve', and betrays his signature lack of imagination.

The '445' is clealy his waist size.

[Chinchilla Bathhouse]

Nice bit of history changing there but the main narrative when Bruce was in charge was that this was the best squad in the championship who any other club would love to have and that any manager would be able to get better performance and results out of.

You can deny it all you want but you know that is what was being said.

Stop making shit up, almost everyone complained about the state our defence was left in, a huge amount of the criticism of Bruce in September/October was directly related to that. There were plenty of people who thought he was dragging our attacking play down a level and the performances in the first couple of months under Smith proved that to be the case, things have gone off the rails in the last 5-6 games, everyone knows that but the attacking play has quite clearly been better under Smith, denying that is a ridiculous position to take.

But that's Stuart's favoured position. He's like Claude Makelele, he plays it so well it's synonymous with him.

[Villa75]

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59280.0

I could post numerous links, but go read the above for how this "turd of a squad" was predicted to do recently.

[stuart445]

So, the manager has one defined style of play, and imposes this on players he knows are not capable of playing it? How's that likely to turn out?

Not only that. When we're losing, against a shit Wigan side, he decides to bring on the very player least likely to ever be able to play 'his way'?

And that's good management?

I call it not having a plan B.

Dean Smith has been brought in to make us a better and more attractive team to watch. To get us promoted asap playing an attractive brand of football. His style is to play attacking fluid football and we were all thrilled when we battered Derby, Middlesboro & WBA and who can forget the 5-5 v forest? Intoxicating stuff. He will plough on regardless until we have the team built in his image. He's implementing it come what may. Doubting him already and questioning whether he has a "plan b" is playing up to our "fickle" reputation. Admittedy mistakes are being made but I can forgive him as he is desperately trying to polish the turd of a squad that Steve Bruce left him with. The bigger picture is full houses at Villa Park watching us playing with style and panache and marching back into the Premier league. Rome wasn't built in a day though was it?

You mean a squad that Smith has said is the best he's managed.  Also a squad many of the Bruce haters were saying should be perofming better and that any manager would be able to get performing better.

Howcome now we are performing worse than we were under Bruce it's all Bruce left a shit squad etc... Which is the total opposite to what they were saying when Bruce was here.

What do you expect Dean Smith to say? Would you expect him to start his new job by slagging off the players? It's Brucies squad however you look at it. He left us with a shocking defence including 3 right backs, no centre half cover, a crap left back and poss poor cover in the goalkeeping position. An ageing midfield that includes a totally ineffective Hourihane and a geriatric pair in Whelan and Jedinack. So yeah I'd call that a turd of a squad that Bruce left us which Deano has had 3 fkn months to work with and half a transfer window to sort it.

Nice bit of history changing there but the main narrative when Bruce was in charge was that this was the best squad in the championship who any other club would love to have and that any manager would be able to get better performance and results out of.

You can deny it all you want but you know that is what was being said.

That was with a squad containing Terry, Grabban and Snodgrass - ie. last season. Not this season and this squad - ie. the one Bruce left behind, which is what I thought was being discussed here. Try to keep up Stuart.

Nope it was being said this season as well. Keep trying to change history though.

[Villa75]

I would argue against Tammy Abraham being a step down on Grabban, as well.

[stuart445]

Nice bit of history changing there but the main narrative when Bruce was in charge was that this was the best squad in the championship who any other club would love to have and that any manager would be able to get better performance and results out of.

You can deny it all you want but you know that is what was being said.

Stop making shit up, almost everyone complained about the state our defence was left in, a huge amount of the criticism of Bruce in September/October was directly related to that. There were plenty of people who thought he was dragging our attacking play down a level and the performances in the first couple of months under Smith proved that to be the case, things have gone off the rails in the last 5-6 games, everyone knows that but the attacking play has quite clearly been better under Smith, denying that is a ridiculous position to take.

Wondered when the hypocrite would show up. It's been getting worse and worse under Smith now and Wigan was bad enough that anyone should be scared. It's the worst performance I've ever seen.

But Paul you keep going with you Bruce = evil and Smith = unquestionable. Paul let's not ignore the fact that under Bruce we scored in every game this season it's only under Smith we have failed to score. But hey say I'm talking shit because it doesn't fit your narrative.

In fact I'm getting sick of you hypocrisy so from now on I don't care about the shit you spout. Like saying it's too early to judge Smith but then admitting you were having a pop about Bruce right from the start, if that's not being a hypocrite then I don't know what is.

[The Edge]

It's definately Steve posting in disguise.

The 'stuart' bit is a thin disguise for 'steve', and betrays his signature lack of imagination.

The '445' is clealy his waist size.

😂😂

[The Edge]

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59280.0

I could post numerous links, but go read the above for how this "turd of a squad" was predicted to do recently.

Ok I'll change my statement to "turd of a defence" Better?

[Villa75]

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59280.0

I could post numerous links, but go read the above for how this "turd of a squad" was predicted to do recently.

Ok I'll change my statement to "turd of a defence" Better?

Not really. That "turd of a defence" still existed when these predictions were made.

[Nunkin1965]

During the whole time of our tenure in this league (apart from the first bit this season) we’ve probably had the best squad. I don’t think that’s debatable but best team? No chance. Not by a mile.
And that’s what I hope Dean Smith does. His way with his methods.
He’s managing a squad half of which he wouldn’t touch if he had the choice. So bad has been the decision making and spewing out of stupid contracts to all and sundry.

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Wigan wasn't the worst performance I'd seen this season. But it was up there with my top 5. Sheffield United was utterly humiliating.

Chelsea and Doncaster and Liverpool at home say hello too. But whatever.

We're on a bad run for sure, but that's squad deficiencies exposed and that's primarily the responsibility of the man who threw it together. Smith can get a tune out of them when they're fit, as going forwards we can be electric. But we've been diabolical defensively all season.

If we hadn't, Bruce would still be here. But he was getting desperate results.

[footyskillz]

Arnie Scharwzenegger was saying the below at a trade conference - so maybe Dean Smith has taken this on board!

If you have a "Plan B", it means you're willing to accept failure in "Plan A". -  you should never have a plan B

Hes a cyborg terminator why would he have a plan B?

[The Edge]

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=59280.0

I could post numerous links, but go read the above for how this "turd of a squad" was predicted to do recently.

Ok I'll change my statement to "turd of a defence" Better?

Not really. That "turd of a defence" still existed when these predictions were made.

So what? Who gives a shit about "predictions"? They were wrong because of the disastrous defence Bruce left us with. Out of the bottom three 2 teams- Bolton & Reading have conceded less goals than us!!

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I'm really confused as to what being argued here?