Next manager?

[themossman]

If we’re talking players who were with us for a fairly short period, and were great between injuries then Vlaar.

I certainly wouldn't class Vlaar as 'great'. I wouldn't even class him as 'very good' in a Villa shirt. He definately wouldn't get into my top five Villa centre halfs and might even struggle to get into my top ten.

Just an example of a player that did roughly as much for us as Terry, objectively speaking, and in a better league.

I don't discount Terry’s contribution but for he didn’t do it for long enough, in a good enough league, and it didn’t help us achieve anything, to be mentioned in such company.

[cdbearsfan]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Laursen or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

Terry is one of the best centre halves this country has ever produced. He was past his prime, but still oozed quality.

Laursen was not as good as he couldn't read the game like Terry. Far too prone to diving in and neither him nor King Olof had his distribution.

Dunne and Collins weren't as good even while he was in the nadir of his career.

Brilliant player.

Not brilliant enough to displace the legendary Sol Bamba in the team of the year, though.

Terry was a great player, undoubtedly. Suggesting that "only McGrath" was better than him based on Villa perfomances is still insanity, though.

[ozzjim]

So Henry is battling it out with Ranieri for the Monaco gig?  tomorrow it'll be someone else hotfooting it to Villa Park.  It's getting boring now.

Isn't it just. Pay Celtic, get Brenda, make Terry coach, get the feck on with life.

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Leave Brenda where he is, moaning about a bloated squad that he bloated.

[cdbearsfan]

So Henry is battling it out with Ranieri for the Monaco gig?  tomorrow it'll be someone else hotfooting it to Villa Park.  It's getting boring now.

Isn't it just. Pay Celtic, get Brenda, make Terry coach, get the feck on with life.

Agree with all that except the Terry as coach bit. If Rodgers agrees, fair enough. If he wants to bring his own people then let him do that.

[Steve67]

So Henry is battling it out with Ranieri for the Monaco gig?  tomorrow it'll be someone else hotfooting it to Villa Park.  It's getting boring now.

Isn't it just. Pay Celtic, get Brenda, make Terry coach, get the feck on with life.

Amen brother!

[Damo70]

I would put Nicholl, Evans, McNaught, Keown, Mountfield, Neilson, McGrath, Teale, Ugo, Southgate, Barry, Mellberg, Laursen and Terry all ahead of Vlaar. The quality Collins and Dunne showed in their first season with us was also higher than anything I saw from the laughingly named 'Concrete Ron'.

[cdbearsfan]

I'd put Zat Knight ahead of Ron Vlaar. At least he could occasionally be arsed to play for us.

[berneboy]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Laursen or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

I'd add Alpay, Barry, Keown, Johnsen...

John Cornelius Sleeuwenhoek used to do ace last second slide tackles.

[Toronto Villa]

I’d like Benítez. He’s paid a fortune but he’d walk this division and get him out of that fucked up situation at Newcastle where they’ve not really back him.

[four fornicholl]

I'd put Zat Knight ahead of Ron Vlaar. At least he could occasionally be arsed to play for us.

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[Sexual Ealing]

I’d like Benítez. He’s paid a fortune but he’d walk this division and get him out of that fucked up situation at Newcastle where they’ve not really back him.

Weren't we all agreed that we want to see a front-foot approach to our play?

[olaftab]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Lauren or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

I would agree with most of that but still think we missed his leadership skills as well as putting him above Collins and Dunne.

Except that Collins and Dunne were playing against very best world class forwards whereas best that Terry had to mark was likes of  Vydra and Assombalonga.

[Toronto Villa]

I’d like Benítez. He’s paid a fortune but he’d walk this division and get him out of that fucked up situation at Newcastle where they’ve not really back him.

Weren't we all agreed that we want to see a front-foot approach to our play?

Agreed. But he certainly was positive with Newcastle in the Championship. They battered the division. I think he’s become negative in the PL based on what he’s been able to bring in.

[Phil from the upper holte]

Vlaar I took to him straight away but in the end he was more jelly than concrete. Pretty average