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[Damo70]

Jardim doesn't hang around anywhere very long does he?

Chaves - 1 season
Beira Mar 2 seasons
Braga 1 season
Olympiakos 1 season
Sporting Lisbon 1 season
Monaco 4 seasons

I suppose the other side of the argument would be that he has always moved to a bigger club than he has left.

[Legion]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Lauren or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

I would agree with most of that but still think we missed his leadership skills as well as putting him above Collins and Dunne.

[cdbearsfan]

Dunne was named in the Premier League Team of the Year, and Collins was more or less his equal for most of the season.

Despite an extremely supportive media, Terry didn't make the second tier Team of the Year.

[cdbearsfan]

Oh, and I'm adding Staunton from when he was our centre-half, too.

[Legion]

Dunne was named in the Premier League Team of the Year, and Collins was more or less his equal for most of the season.

Despite an extremely supportive media, Terry didn't make the second tier Team of the Year.

I don't dispute any of that at all. It's my personal opinion. I was dead against Terry at the start for many reasons. Over time I saw his value in a footballing sense. His leadership skills and experience were second to none for us as was his commitment at the time. Ability-wise I put him well ahead of Collins and Dunne.

[themossman]

If we’re talking players who were with us for a fairly short period, and were great between injuries then Vlaar.

[cdbearsfan]

Ability-wise, there's no doubt. But that wasn't what was being debated. We were talking about who was better for us.

I think that was it, anyway.

I did like the fact that, when I Googled him, my phone autocorrected to "Richard Dinner", which seems about right based on his perfomances in subsequent seasons.

[Damo70]

If we’re talking players who were with us for a fairly short period, and were great between injuries then Vlaar.

I certainly wouldn't class Vlaar as 'great'. I wouldn't even class him as 'very good' in a Villa shirt. He definately wouldn't get into my top five Villa centre halfs and might even struggle to get into my top ten.

[brian green]

Best centre half after Paul McGrath I have ever seen was Con Martin.  Uniquely capped by his country (Republic of Ireland) as goalkeeper and centre half individually, not as a replacement. Never seen a player with such a football skill set.

[Ad@m]

If we’re talking players who were with us for a fairly short period, and were great between injuries then Vlaar.

I certainly wouldn't class Vlaar as 'great'. I wouldn't even class him as 'very good' in a Villa shirt. He definately wouldn't get into my top five Villa centre halfs and might even struggle to get into my top ten.

True - but that goal against Sunderland though...!

[Sexual Ealing]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Laursen or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

I'd add Alpay, Barry, Keown, Johnsen...

[four fornicholl]

The mighty Aston Villa's light is soon to be reignited!

[Ads]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Laursen or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

Terry is one of the best centre halves this country has ever produced. He was past his prime, but still oozed quality.

Laursen was not as good as he couldn't read the game like Terry. Far too prone to diving in and neither him nor King Olof had his distribution.

Dunne and Collins weren't as good even while he was in the nadir of his career.

Brilliant player.

[Sexual Ealing]

McGrath was better. That's about it.

This is some bizarre revisionism, here. Terry had a good season, but he wasn't even the best centre-half at the club.

At his best, for Chelsea, he'd be up there with McGrath.

To suggest that he played better for us, at the tail end of his career, than Southgate, Ehiogu, Laursen or Mellberg did in their prime is nonsense.

He would be below Collins and Dunne too, based on one good season each. They were an excellent partnership before turning into twats as soon as MON left.

Terry is one of the best centre halves this country has ever produced. He was past his prime, but still oozed quality.

Laursen was not as good as he couldn't read the game like Terry. Far too prone to diving in and neither him nor King Olof had his distribution.

Dunne and Collins weren't as good even while he was in the nadir of his career.

Brilliant player.

So was George Best. Fulham and Hibs, it could be argued, didn't see the best (sorry) of him.

[Steve67]

So Henry is battling it out with Ranieri for the Monaco gig?  tomorrow it'll be someone else hotfooting it to Villa Park.  It's getting boring now.