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Offline Drummond

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1275 on: October 04, 2018, 09:44:56 AM »
I guess if they have someone like Fonseca lined-up and therefore more smarts than i gave them credit for, we will know soon enough. If they haven't appointed someone before the millwall game, then we will know it was the gabbage that did it!

Fuck me, it took is long enough to get rid last time without him being manager.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1276 on: October 04, 2018, 09:53:21 AM »
Nuno looks like a good manager. I'm sure he could be tempted to come to a big club.

I’ve been using that line with my tatter mates and family since the dismissal, there have been some spectacular bites and mouth frothing.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1277 on: October 04, 2018, 10:38:56 AM »
The thing with the Fonz is that he signed a 2 year contract extension as the summer at Shaktar Donetsk and was complimentary to his reign and success there . Will he now move on due to advice from Mendes I suppose it's a possibility

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1278 on: October 04, 2018, 10:39:45 AM »
Well there won't be any shortage of takers....the possibility of managing in the Prem, 3rd richest owners in the land, good fan base, great set up, big wage (no doubt), decent squad and the right guy will have the fans backing given what we've endured under you know who..... now we just need to find the right guy.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1279 on: October 04, 2018, 10:43:27 AM »
I wouldn't rule out Rui Faria, if we can't get Fonseca. Mendes will certainly push for him. 17 years working alongside Mourinho can not be ignored with everything they've won together. I wonder if Terry would work with him as Assistant Manager?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1280 on: October 04, 2018, 10:46:07 AM »
I’d love it to happen, but can’t see anyway that Fonseca would come to us.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1281 on: October 04, 2018, 10:52:22 AM »
I wouldn't rule out Rui Faria, if we can't get Fonseca. Mendes will certainly push for him. 17 years working alongside Mourinho can not be ignored with everything they've won together. I wonder if Terry would work with him as Assistant Manager?

Faria is an annoying little man he really is with his antics . Good coach but a touchline
antagonist !
Rather have him on our side than against but I don't know if his temperament is suited


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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1282 on: October 04, 2018, 10:54:21 AM »
I guess if they have someone like Fonseca lined-up and therefore more smarts than i gave them credit for, we will know soon enough. If they haven't appointed someone before the millwall game, then we will know it was the gabbage that did it!

Fuck me, it took is long enough to get rid last time without him being manager.

Haha.
Oh and as you probably aware now Kmac in charge for millwall so no new appointment till the swansea match.

I guess that during international break that's when there is some time to bring in the new coaching team

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1283 on: October 04, 2018, 11:02:17 AM »
Didn't Kevin MacDonald pick a fucking McGrath-awful team last time he was given the Villa remote control?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1284 on: October 04, 2018, 11:09:38 AM »
Didn't Kevin MacDonald pick a fucking McGrath-awful team last time he was given the Villa remote control?

I was trying to think about something along those lines last night. The last time he was in charge for a game he pissed the fans off somehow - was it just team selection?

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1285 on: October 04, 2018, 11:11:48 AM »
I wouldn't rule out Rui Faria, if we can't get Fonseca. Mendes will certainly push for him. 17 years working alongside Mourinho can not be ignored with everything they've won together. I wonder if Terry would work with him as Assistant Manager?

Faria is an annoying little man he really is with his antics . Good coach but a touchline
antagonist !
Rather have him on our side than against but I don't know if his temperament is suited

It was one game, Footy and a penalty decision that probably cost them the title. All explained here, he's generally a very cool character but one that understands the need for hard work and knowledge. Certainly the type of person we need right now.

Interesting note on how he guided Lampard. If he could do the same with Jack..

As it's behind a firewall, I may as well post it up.

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Rui Faria: I left Manchester United with a heavy heart but I have a passion to manage

After more than ten years as José Mourinho’s No 2, Rui Faria wants to make a return to football as a head coach, writes Henry Winter.


When Rui Faria announced he was resigning as assistant manager at Manchester United, he talked emotionally of leaving with a “heavy heart”. Four months on, the 43-year-old strides into a hotel near his Surrey home, a mixture of the contented-looking father who has just done another happy school run, the passionate, deep thinker about the game and the ambitious coach weighing up a return to football as a manager. “It was a stop to restart,” Faria says, smiling.

What happened? Over two hours, Faria relates the values his parents instilled in him, the joy of working with driven stars such as Frank Lampard and Cristiano Ronaldo, and 17 years alongside José Mourinho at Leiria, Porto, Chelsea, Inter Milan, Real Madrid and United, amassing 25 trophies. “When I left with a heavy heart, I am first speaking of the friendship with José, the relationship that, of course, doesn’t finish but it is different,” he says.

“My heavy heart was secondly, of course, leaving United, leaving all the good people there. I’ve always been a humble person with everybody. I gave everyone respect, from the kitchen people, kitman, medical department, everyone, and I was sad to leave. It was not a decision I took overnight, it was a mature decision and I don’t regret it. Life has no rehearsals. You live only once. I was living there every day, maybe more time spent at work than with the family.

“I felt the decision was about my family, they had been very patient with me for all these years and it was time for me to think more of them. I don’t need to go to New York, Barcelona [on sabbatical]. I just wanted to do the basic stuff as a father, have breakfast with them every morning, dinner with them every night, listen to them. I remember moments when I was working and they were speaking to me but my head was in another place, worries with my work, and I knew I was being unfair to them. They are 10, 11, 13 only once and this goes so quickly and you lose everything. I wouldn’t have seen anything if I’d not stopped. I took the opportunity to show them Portugal, they had been in Madrid, Milan or London, but not Portugal. I couldn’t be more happy with my decision.”

Faria thinks of his own childhood. “I grew up with my parents working every day and those important conversations at dinner, talking about my day at school and listening to them giving me advice and principles, like ‘Without working, you have nothing, you need to be a hard worker’, ‘Be always honest’ and ‘Believe in yourself’, words that stayed in my head, that followed me all these years. I would describe myself as honest, with dignity, loyal to the cause and a respectful person. I’m someone who believes in hard work. No one has given me anything. I had to work to where I arrived.”

He thinks of the early years, studying diligently at the University of Porto, writing a thesis on football and contacting Mourinho, who was Louis van Gaal’s assistant at Barcelona at the time. Mourinho admired Faria’s energy, intelligence and ability to think progressively about football and contacted him to work at Leiria. “When José gave me the opportunity it was the result of the work I did at university,” he says. “He saw in me something I could deliver.”

Mourinho saw an aspiring coach, who would acquire his Uefa Pro Licence to add to his sports science degree and was an expert in tactical periodisation (a methodology that combines tactical and physical work). “I played football at a bad level but I could see [solutions]” Faria says. “We train three times a week, so why are we losing time with all this running around the pitch? We should be training specifically for the game. Everything is related with the ball.

“When we came from Porto to Chelsea [in 2004], we came with a philosophy. José was the new man in football that broke all the rules, with fantastic seasons at Porto, winning everything [including the Uefa Cup and Champions League] with a team that is not always fighting for the top competitions, so he is a bit of an outsider and what he did was extraordinary, so he came with that aura and results. People started believing in him from that first impression.”

The Chelsea players accepted their commitment to tactical periodisation. Lampard had been used to running during training, lapping the pitches, until Faria had a polite word. “The concert pianist doesn’t run around the piano to get ready or do push-ups on his fingers,” Faria told Lampard. He smiles at the memory. “I gave Frank an analogy for him to understand that, yes, there is a logic to [tactical periodisation].” Practise, prepare, don’t run yourself into the ground. “Frank was ready to listen and learn, be humble, put team interests ahead of his own interests.”

Faria loved that dressing room with strong characters, such as Lampard, John Terry and Didier Drogba, who absorbed advice. “There is a big change now [in football]. People now question the people in charge. It looks like everybody knows everything so when you ask people to do things, sometimes they doubt what you say. Back then they were characters passionate about their football, hungry to learn and wanting to do well, people like Drogba, JT, Frank and [Ricardo] Carvalho, who came with us from Porto, who knew it already. They looked at José and understood — ‘We follow this guy and good things will happen to us.’ Not just in those years but also afterwards because José built the main team years after he left, they won important things.”

What of the woolly hat, concealing an earpiece so the banned Mourinho could communicate with the bench against Bayern Munich in 2005? “It was just cold that day,” Faria replies diplomatically.

Tactical periodisation continued at Inter. “I remember when we went to Italy and did the first session pre-season and José sent me to the press, and they said, ‘Last season we saw the fitness coach on a bicycle putting the players running around the track here, why don’t you run on the track?’ I replied, ‘For the same reasons that the athletes are not playing football to improve their skills.’ They started laughing. Nobody had stopped to question [heavy running] in the past.”

At Madrid, Faria spoke to Ronaldo about his heavy gym work. “I said, ‘With this, you’re going to lose mobility and agility and a guy like you is about speeding with the ball, you have a lot of skills to dribble.’ But I never say stop. I just opened their minds to a different approach.

“I’ve worked with a lot of good professionals but Ronaldo is maybe the best with his desire always to be better every day. We could arrive at the training ground at 4am after a flight and he wanted to do cold water, warm water, and ask for someone to give him a massage. He could finish a session and be one hour doing free kicks or doing an action, coming inside to shoot. As a kid at 12 to leave Madeira to go to Sporting [Lisbon] because he had a dream, a passion . . . and he has built a career on passion and hard work. I respect him so much.”

Yet Madrid was difficult in many ways. There were issues with the dressing room and Faria occasionally falling foul of officials, a theme that briefly continued on his return with Mourinho to Chelsea. It was April 19, 2014, at Stamford Bridge and Mike Dean had just awarded Sunderland a penalty that Fabio Borini converted to win the game. “We were fighting for the Premier League and that penalty, minute 82, was changing our possibilities to keep fighting for the title,” he says. “It was a decisive moment for us. I went to the tunnel — it is not allowed — to watch on TV and had the feeling it was not a penalty. My position was to tell the fourth official [Phil Dowd] it is a wrong decision.

“It’s not something I’m proud of but people try to pull me back, take my arms and that creates an image of somebody who’s lost his mind. I never had a bad intention except to express my opinion. I can’t erase the image. It was not so good for me, a six-match ban [reduced to four]. But I’m proud I defended the players’ interests.”

A week later, Chelsea were at Anfield. “It was the 25th anniversary of the Hillsborough tragedy. There was a will for Liverpool to be champions. On TV, everything was ‘Liverpool here, Liverpool there’. It was like there are no other teams in the Premier League so we were feeling, ‘Is [the title race] done? There are still some matches to go.’ We won 2-0. That is why football is beautiful. You can’t predict what will happen.”

He will be at the Bridge today, watching Chelsea take on Liverpool. “Liverpool and Chelsea became the new rivalry, fighting for the league, in the Champions League, so many stories around this fixture — the ‘ghost goal’. It’s an important, big match.”

Refreshed by his break, Faria wants to return to the game. “I have a passion to get into management. Being assistant for so many years, working with the best, in the best clubs in the world with someone who lives football 24 hours a day like José does, you are influenced by the desire to lead, start a project and coach.

“Being José’s assistant for so many years, I couldn’t be an assistant to somebody else. Working with José is the best experience you can have. José is maybe the only manager when he takes a club that there’s a demand on him immediately for silverware. Other managers in different clubs can be there for four or five years, not winning anything, and people like them and are happy with what they deliver to the club. There are managers who have special pressure on them and others who don’t. It’s difficult now. The Premier League is so competitive. Manchester City bought four defenders for £300 million and if they don’t do well the next year, they just sell them and replace.

“José’s a special person and a special professional. He loves what he does 24 hours a day, his motivation levels are incomparable. He is demanding but the more you deliver, the less he asks of you. You can get knowledge from a school but wisdom comes with experiences and I don’t think there’s a manager in the world with the experience José has and the wisdom.

“You don’t just erase what he did in football. People should respect José more than they do. If they showed more respect, maybe people would have a different person towards them. When you feel you’re not being respected you have a tendency also to answer the same way. And José sells [newspapers] like no one. If you’re a manager who hasn’t worked for a while and wants to get on the front page of the paper you just say something bad or critical about José and it will be front page.”

Faria cannot hide his frustration at players not sticking to club rules. “Today there is this hunger of showing on Instagram and Twitter a video of a player working with a personal trainer at home. This is the worst thing that can happen at the highest level of competition. You have a programme in the club, people managing your health and suddenly you go home and tell a guy you want to be stronger. OK, he gives him more strength but it’s not considering what’s being done at the club or the fatigue of the player and it’s bad for you. It’s a modern disease.”

As well as talking so lucidly, Faria is a copious compiler of notes. “I am a man of the pen and paper,” he says. “I have pages of exercises, a question from a player, a question from the manager, so I am building up with my experience a special knowledge.” A knowledge he will bring back to the dugout as a manager.

Trophy haul as Mourinho’s No 2
Porto
Portuguese League 2003, 2004
Champions League 2004
Uefa Cup 2003
Portuguese Cup 2003
Portuguese Super Cup 2003

Chelsea
Premier League 2005, 2006
League Cup 2005, 2007
FA Cup 2007
Community Shield 2005

Inter
Serie A 2009, 2010
Champions League 2010
Italian Cup 2010
Italian Super Cup 2008

Real Madrid
La Liga 2012
Spanish Cup 2011
Spanish Super Cup 2012

Chelsea
Premier League 2015
League Cup 2015

Man Utd
Europa League 2017
League Cup 2017
Community Shield 2016
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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1286 on: October 04, 2018, 11:14:45 AM »
Didn't Kevin MacDonald pick a fucking McGrath-awful team last time he was given the Villa remote control?

I was trying to think about something along those lines last night. The last time he was in charge for a game he pissed the fans off somehow - was it just team selection?

It was after Sherwood was sacked and the team he put out was a disgrace...left out all the new (foreign) signings IIRC - Saints away in the Cup?
« Last Edit: October 04, 2018, 11:18:21 AM by avfcpg »

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1287 on: October 04, 2018, 11:15:15 AM »
We need a number of coaches. I've had enough of absentee managers. This is probably the most important assignment that we will make since SGT.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1288 on: October 04, 2018, 11:17:47 AM »
Nuno looks like a good manager. I'm sure he could be tempted to come to a big club.

I’ve been using that line with my tatter mates and family since the dismissal, there have been some spectacular bites and mouth frothing.
I know. Hilarious ain't it.

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Re: Next manager?
« Reply #1289 on: October 04, 2018, 11:25:32 AM »
Didn't Kevin MacDonald pick a fucking McGrath-awful team last time he was given the Villa remote control?

I was trying to think about something along those lines last night. The last time he was in charge for a game he pissed the fans off somehow - was it just team selection?

It was after Sherwood was sacked and the team he put out was a disgrace...left out all the new (foreign) signings IIRC - Saints away in the Cup?

Yep, his line up was met with universal derision on here:

http://www.heroesandvillains.info/forumv3/index.php?topic=54973.0

The post-match comments were even worse.

Hope he's not as much of a twat about things this time.

 


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