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Author Topic: Tony’s Statement.  (Read 375790 times)

Offline boozey182

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1335 on: July 03, 2018, 12:42:36 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that £30m have gone to Tone and not the club itself. No guarantee he'd put that back into the club, but I suppose it would depend how much investment the new part owners would want to stick into the club. Probably not a lot if Tone still owns 70% of it. I think there is always going to be a lot of bullshit and misinformation around in these times, it's difficult to know what to believe.
The Mail have embellished this old news today with more details of the American bid.  Apparently they wanted to sell Jack for £40m minimum and use that money as working capital.

Sounds quite sensible under the circumstances, apart from the fact that we won't get £40m for Jack. Maybe £30m if there is enough interest.

The story I read suggested that they didn't want to sell Jack, so were thinking of setting the price at £40m and wouldn't sell for less. Which strikes me as quite sensible.

How people know this is another question, of course. As is whether anyone will get a chance to implement such a plan. But it gave me a bit of hope. The same story suggested that there were two other parties interested in buying the club, both of whom have money to invest.

If any of this is true, things could look very positive quite quickly. The lack of any noise coming out of Villa seems to suggest that something could be quite close. Or that there's no one left at the club and everything is utterly hopeless... I'm going to choose to believe the more positive outlook at the moment. Will make for a more pleasant summer, I reckon.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1336 on: July 03, 2018, 12:48:24 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that £30m have gone to Tone and not the club itself. No guarantee he'd put that back into the club, but I suppose it would depend how much investment the new part owners would want to stick into the club. Probably not a lot if Tone still owns 70% of it. I think there is always going to be a lot of bullshit and misinformation around in these times, it's difficult to know what to believe.
The Mail have embellished this old news today with more details of the American bid.  Apparently they wanted to sell Jack for £40m minimum and use that money as working capital.

Sounds quite sensible under the circumstances, apart from the fact that we won't get £40m for Jack. Maybe £30m if there is enough interest.

The story I read suggested that they didn't want to sell Jack, so were thinking of setting the price at £40m and wouldn't sell for less. Which strikes me as quite sensible.

If true, and if they would be wealthy enough and willing to invest so that we don't need to sell Jack it would be both sensible and very exciting for us fans. I hope it turns out to be right.

Online Clampy

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1337 on: July 03, 2018, 12:57:05 PM »
but have we? Or is it more Tone speak

Why would they lie about how many season tickets they have sold?

Offline boozey182

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1338 on: July 03, 2018, 01:08:00 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that £30m have gone to Tone and not the club itself. No guarantee he'd put that back into the club, but I suppose it would depend how much investment the new part owners would want to stick into the club. Probably not a lot if Tone still owns 70% of it. I think there is always going to be a lot of bullshit and misinformation around in these times, it's difficult to know what to believe.
The Mail have embellished this old news today with more details of the American bid.  Apparently they wanted to sell Jack for £40m minimum and use that money as working capital.

Sounds quite sensible under the circumstances, apart from the fact that we won't get £40m for Jack. Maybe £30m if there is enough interest.

The story I read suggested that they didn't want to sell Jack, so were thinking of setting the price at £40m and wouldn't sell for less. Which strikes me as quite sensible.

If true, and if they would be wealthy enough and willing to invest so that we don't need to sell Jack it would be both sensible and very exciting for us fans. I hope it turns out to be right.

Agreed. I'm (choosing to be) actually quite positive about next season. I don't think our squad, as it stands, is any worse than it was last year, although we need a centre back to play next to Chester. Get someone with some pace and height and we'll be set out better than last year, in my opinion. A bit of pace to replace Snodgrass on the wing (Green?), and more chance for players like RHM, Lyden, O'Hare and we look alright. With Jack and Kodjia fit from the start of the season, playing a bit more positively, I'm not sure we'll be scared about playing anyone in the league.

Of course, everything could go to shit before then. No one knows. The vacuum of information means we get to come up with our own version of what might happen. This is mine.

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1339 on: July 03, 2018, 01:25:38 PM »
It's similar to what I've been saying most of the time, although I did envisage having to sell Grealish no matter what. If it turns out that we don't, our financial position will have taken a hell of a turn for the better. With new owners I suppose anything is possible.

Offline Russ aka Big Nose

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1340 on: July 03, 2018, 01:34:33 PM »
There is a lot about the sorry state of affairs, now and recent years, that I am bemused by.

The latest bit of which is that football (and the Villa) has got into the position where Jack Grealish is (perhaps) worth 40% of the total value of Aston Villa FC.

He's a great player and has the potential to become an outstanding player, but the World has to be more than a bit fucked up if that is true.

What a time to be alive. UTV.

Offline tomd2103

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1341 on: July 03, 2018, 01:50:48 PM »
It's similar to what I've been saying most of the time, although I did envisage having to sell Grealish no matter what. If it turns out that we don't, our financial position will have taken a hell of a turn for the better. With new owners I suppose anything is possible.

Wouldn't new owners still be hampered by the FFP situation though and not able to invest even if the money was there?

Offline sirlordbaltimore

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1342 on: July 03, 2018, 02:08:48 PM »
It's similar to what I've been saying most of the time, although I did envisage having to sell Grealish no matter what. If it turns out that we don't, our financial position will have taken a hell of a turn for the better. With new owners I suppose anything is possible.

Wouldn't new owners still be hampered by the FFP situation though and not able to invest even if the money was there?

I'd have thought so

Offline purpletrousers

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1343 on: July 03, 2018, 05:26:58 PM »
My thoughts exactly. Presumably we still have to balance the books due to Financial Unfair (unless you have already acquired the big bucks) Play. Surely there could be a middle way to ensure ongoing steady gradual outside investment and to reduce boom & bust spending? Less likelihood of pushing that legally once we leave the EU?

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1344 on: July 03, 2018, 05:31:06 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that £30m have gone to Tone and not the club itself. No guarantee he'd put that back into the club, but I suppose it would depend how much investment the new part owners would want to stick into the club. Probably not a lot if Tone still owns 70% of it. I think there is always going to be a lot of bullshit and misinformation around in these times, it's difficult to know what to believe.
The Mail have embellished this old news today with more details of the American bid.  Apparently they wanted to sell Jack for £40m minimum and use that money as working capital.

Sounds quite sensible under the circumstances, apart from the fact that we won't get £40m for Jack. Maybe £30m if there is enough interest.

The story I read suggested that they didn't want to sell Jack, so were thinking of setting the price at £40m and wouldn't sell for less. Which strikes me as quite sensible.

How people know this is another question, of course. As is whether anyone will get a chance to implement such a plan. But it gave me a bit of hope. The same story suggested that there were two other parties interested in buying the club, both of whom have money to invest.

If any of this is true, things could look very positive quite quickly. The lack of any noise coming out of Villa seems to suggest that something could be quite close. Or that there's no one left at the club and everything is utterly hopeless... I'm going to choose to believe the more positive outlook at the moment. Will make for a more pleasant summer, I reckon.

I have a worrying suspicion the latter is correct Boozey. Business as usual on flogging tickets and the like but bugger all proper Executive direction.

Offline Whiney MacWhineface

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1345 on: July 03, 2018, 05:42:33 PM »
I can’t imagine how anyone is managing the club from a footballing point of view. The Manager will not know who is in his first team, or second for that matter. The players must be deeply unsettled.

And as for us...

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1346 on: July 03, 2018, 05:59:55 PM »
Mushroom syndrome?

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1347 on: July 03, 2018, 11:47:00 PM »
We've secured a £50m loan which is enough to keep us going for 12 months or while we try and sell the club.

I would rather keep Jack as I think we're far more likely to be promoted than not with him in the side.

How much of that 50m loan is going to reduce the FFP deficit?

Glad this World cup is on as rather not think about next season tbh. Understatement to say we're not in great shape for it.

Offline kippaxvilla2

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1348 on: July 04, 2018, 07:17:23 AM »
None.  I would imagine the £50m is just to keep the lights on for a few months.

Online aj2k77

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Re: Tony’s Statement.
« Reply #1349 on: July 04, 2018, 08:59:57 AM »
We're back to where we were under Lerner with no direction coming from the top down. Brilliant. Dr Del Boy is out of his depth.

 


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