Quote from: The Edge on April 14, 2018, 10:35:35 AMQuote from: Legion on April 14, 2018, 09:20:36 AMThe perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time. Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
Quote from: Legion on April 14, 2018, 09:20:36 AMThe perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
Quote from: AV82EC on April 14, 2018, 10:23:15 AMBy no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today. Spot on that's exactly how I viewed things last night - nice to walk away from Villa Park feeling like you got your money's worth - Hogan aside who just does not look interested.I thought the atmosphere was good - Only downer on the night was the journey to and from B6 from the North West - the M6 is an absolute joke
By no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today.
Quote from: villa `cross the mersey on April 14, 2018, 11:02:10 AMQuote from: AV82EC on April 14, 2018, 10:23:15 AMBy no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today. Spot on that's exactly how I viewed things last night - nice to walk away from Villa Park feeling like you got your money's worth - Hogan aside who just does not look interested.I thought the atmosphere was good - Only downer on the night was the journey to and from B6 from the North West - the M6 is an absolute joke I'm not sure about Hogan not being interested. His goal against Reading suggests he is.
Quote from: Richard E on April 14, 2018, 10:36:13 AMQuote from: The Edge on April 14, 2018, 10:35:35 AMQuote from: Legion on April 14, 2018, 09:20:36 AMThe perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time. Sorry. I'll try harder in future.Sorry if you took that personal. I'm only saying that the bulk of the singing coming from the back of the holte gets lost due to the two tiered design. If they all congregated in the lower holte it would make a big difference. Just pointing out the obvious really in reply to people questioning why the atmosphere is sometimes a bit dull.
Quote from: The Edge on April 14, 2018, 11:04:13 AMQuote from: Richard E on April 14, 2018, 10:36:13 AMQuote from: The Edge on April 14, 2018, 10:35:35 AMQuote from: Legion on April 14, 2018, 09:20:36 AMThe perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time. Sorry. I'll try harder in future.Sorry if you took that personal. I'm only saying that the bulk of the singing coming from the back of the holte gets lost due to the two tiered design. If they all congregated in the lower holte it would make a big difference. Just pointing out the obvious really in reply to people questioning why the atmosphere is sometimes a bit dull. Don’t worry. I’m pathologically incapable of taking anything seriously.
Quote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 08:26:05 AMI do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.Not a criticism of Villa obv.We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.Not a criticism of Villa obv.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 08:37:37 AMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 08:26:05 AMI do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.Not a criticism of Villa obv.We keep asking, they keep ignoring. I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
Quote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 12:19:43 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 08:37:37 AMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 08:26:05 AMI do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.Not a criticism of Villa obv.We keep asking, they keep ignoring. I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 12:30:57 PMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 12:19:43 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 08:37:37 AMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 08:26:05 AMI do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.Not a criticism of Villa obv.We keep asking, they keep ignoring. I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."I live within walking distance of the ground and as such I'm oblivious of this situation. How the hall has this been allowed by the club, and the train operators. Surely extra trains makes sense all round from a commercial and safety point of view? Why aren't the club onto this?
Quote from: The Edge on April 14, 2018, 12:41:07 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 12:30:57 PMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 12:19:43 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 14, 2018, 08:37:37 AMQuote from: PeterWithe on April 14, 2018, 08:26:05 AMI do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.Not a criticism of Villa obv.We keep asking, they keep ignoring. I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."I live within walking distance of the ground and as such I'm oblivious of this situation. How the hall has this been allowed by the club, and the train operators. Surely extra trains makes sense all round from a commercial and safety point of view? Why aren't the club onto this? The club have tried. It's the train companies that don't want to know.