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Heroes & Villains => Match Threads & Player Ratings => Topic started by: PeterWithesShin on April 13, 2018, 09:37:40 PM
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Did enough.
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That'll do.
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Never in doubt.
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Top 6 guaranteed.
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Delighted it's over.
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That'll do. Shame we didn't score more, but struggling to think of any decent DL chances, even in their "good" half.
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That's the Championship.
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made the playoffs
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Made hard work of that, but never really troubled. Thought Onomah played well after being out for a while.
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Good job lads...over to you Fulham / Cardiff.
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Sluggish again, but got the win. Pressure put onto Fulham and Cardiff.
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Major props to Snodgrass, he was undoubtly shite with the ball today, his worst game for us by an absolute mile but he just kept going on, chasing them down and wanting the ball, attitude spot on.
Although the diving is horrendous!
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Good result, should've had 2-3 more, Snoddy and Kodj looked fucked in the 2nd half, no idea why Grabban came off instead of the former, Grealish was superb, first half was Onomah's best game for months but he couldn't get into it in the 2nd half.
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Come on Brentford and Norwich!!
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Well done Villa.
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How did Onomoah do tonight? Big chance for him
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Job done.
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How did Onomoah do tonight? Big chance for him
I think he did very well. Good on the ball and movement was best in a while. One wild shot aside he was fine.
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We went again.
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Comfortable.
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How did Onomoah do tonight? Big chance for him
For the first time this season he played in his natural position and looked a completely different player.
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Come on Brentford and Norwich!!
I lived in Norwich for six years, and Brentford is a couple of bus stops away from me now. Unless I see two victories I will feel personally insulted and the families will have to arbitrate because vengeance will be on my mind.
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How did Onomoah do tonight? Big chance for him
I think he did very well. Good on the ball and movement was best in a while. One wild shot aside he was fine.
That wild shot came off the back of some excellent footwork.
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Yes it did - I thought he was excellent.
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Poor performance but we win and never really looked in trouble. Better break than other teams before our next game. One or two really need a day off. Johnstone only had one save to make in the whole game. Easy enough without striking fear in to the hearts of our play off rivals. Nice goal.
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Three points, let's see what happens tomorrow.
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Nice to have a relaxed Saturday
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I thought Whelan was great today.
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Well done Villa. My nerves are becoming unraveled.
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You can see he has talent and his footwork and strength on ball helped us alot tonight
Whelan was also decent at mopping up to be fair and the 2 CBS were rock solid all night.Snodgrass's workrate is immense and keeping him in team as the rest of his game is fairly poor at moment he could do with a rest TBH I would have taken him off over Grabben and put Adomah wide right.
Kodjia tired in the 2h but you can see what he brings to team with his movement and hold up play .Grealish again very good kept the ball well and create some decent chances including the goal.
Again such a shame we let ourselves down so badly against Bolton etc as we would be right in there now , where as now we need other teams to help us out
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I correctly predicted the scoreline on here but didn't stick a bet on it. Play offs guaranteed, no pressure in the last three games so we might as well just go for it. Best case (and unlikely) scenario is we finish second, next best is finishing on a high and full of confidence going into the play offs.
Bad night for Leeds, they lost to Wigan in the rugby too.
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Puts the pressure on the others.
That's all we can ask for.
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How did Onomoah do tonight? Big chance for him
His performance tonight was the biggest plus, showed his quality at last. Let's hope he takes it into the play offs.
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I know it's a case of 'if my auntie had bollocks' but jeeze, how costly does that 1 point from the QPR, Bolton, Hull and Norwich games look.
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Easy peasy.
1-0 flattered them and they didn't threaten in the least.
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Easy peasy.
1-0 flattered them and they didn't threaten in the least.
Agreed. What did you think to the second half?
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I thought Whelan was great today.
He we great compared to the last game.
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Very comfortable in the end.
Grabban should have had another goal.
Never really felt like we would concede.
Just a solid, straightforward performance imo.
No complaints from me.
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We should have kept the ball a bit better. They threatened the upper north twice and stuck a header 10 yards wide. We should have had 2 or 3.
Easy win.
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Watching the interview with Bruce now. Comes across so well top bloke
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Blimey, world record attempt for the longest post match interview with Brucey.
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Watching the interview with Bruce now. Comes across so well top bloke
I like him a lot. We should persevere with Big Steve. He is doing a good job.
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SE if you lived in Norwich you will doubtless know the patron saint of the city is Julian oddly a woman credited with being the first woman to write a book. It was a book of her belief which was All Shall Be Well. Could have been written for Villa fans.
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Watching the interview with Bruce now. Comes across so well top bloke
I like him a lot. We should persevere with Big Steve. He is doing a good job.
Not if the goal posts change next season.
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Pretty comfortable win in the end. Good first half performance and although Leeds came back into it second half.
Thought some of the players who came in did well, with Taylor and Jedinak having solid games and Chester having a very good game.
Liked the balance in midfield tonight and thought Whelan and Onomah had good games in positions that suit them best, with Grealish having another good game as well.
Kodjia and Grabban were decent and loomed threatening at times. Only real disappointment was Snodgrass who looks terribly out of form. Adomah looked a lot fresher when he came on in the latter stages and I think Snodgrass could do with a similar rest.
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Solid enough win but for our playoff hopes we need to iron out our awful decision making sharpish. If this was one of the two-legged ties I would be raging at how many good chances we squandered.
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Solid enough win but for our playoff hopes we need to iron out our awful decision making sharpish. If this was one of the two-legged ties I would be raging at how many good chances we squandered.
Fair point.
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Highlights (http://www.skysports.com/football/a-villa-vs-leeds/375123)
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I'd wanted to see a lot more, but three games in six days (more or less) and it still keeps us in touch somehow. That might not mean much in the end but we've done what we can.
Kodjia's looking very rusty. Could do with a goal, but then couldn't many of them.
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Kodjia was awful but I guess injury has taken a lot out of him and it will take a few games to get him back in tune.
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SE if you lived in Norwich you will doubtless know the patron saint of the city is Julian oddly a woman credited with being the first woman to write a book. It was a book of her belief which was All Shall Be Well. Could have been written for Villa fans.
I did know that Brian. Gawd bless her, as I'm sure He did (I always think that the fact the He insists on that capitalisation for the personal pronoun there makes Him look a bit petty).
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Easy win.
The most impressive thing about Leeds was their fans, very loud. Must have been about 160,000 of them
Amazed by the comments about Onomah. I thought he was poor. Fails over a lot. That seemed to be the general opinion of people around us.
Anyway, who cares.
Leeds are shite. So many of their players seem to have almost no technique. I thought their number 10 was their best player, and they took him off.
I am allowing myself to start to think we could finish second. If only we had taken something from QPR and Norwich.
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SE if you lived in Norwich you will doubtless know the patron saint of the city is Julian oddly a woman credited with being the first woman to write a book. It was a book of her belief which was All Shall Be Well. Could have been written for Villa fans.
I did know that Brian. Gawd bless her, as I'm sure He did (I always think that the fact the He insists on that capitalisation for the personal pronoun there makes Him look a bit petty).
Lovely woman, by all accounts. There’s a church of St Julian (presume it’s still there) in King’s Heath.
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Very good first half. Very comfortable and dominant.
Average second half. Poor final ball and decision making and made hard work of it against a dreadful Leeds side.
Leeds are garbage and we should have won that far more comfortably. We need to click again as an attacking unit before the play offs. Kodjia needs a goal.
Another piss poor atmosphere at VP. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, hopefully they remember how to sing in the play offs. Leeds' support was excellent considering the crap they're served up every week and every season.
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Not the most classic game of football but three points in the bag and play-off place cemented. Thought we played well first half and had them pretty much under the cosh for the first half hour. A second goal would have helped calm the nerves, and the longer the second half went on the more tired some of our players looked and more of the play went to them. Special mention tonight for Whelan - he gets a lot of stick (me included) but I thought he played really well tonight, probably his best game since he came here. Be interesting to see who gets the nod between Jedinak, Whelan and Thor when Terry comes back and they're all fit. Tiring week for the players - three games in under a week, but now over a week between each of our last three games, so time for recuperation and rejuvenation for the play-offs, or maybe, just maybe......
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Thought Jedi was immense tonight.
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Very good first half. Very comfortable and dominant.
Average second half. Poor final ball and decision making and made hard work of it against a dreadful Leeds side.
Leeds are garbage and we should have won that far more comfortably. We need to click again as an attacking unit before the play offs. Kodjia needs a goal.
Another piss poor atmosphere at VP. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, hopefully they remember how to sing in the play offs. Leeds' support was excellent considering the crap they're served up every week and every season.
30k plus twice in the space of four days is also very good. Not surprised you found fault though.
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Very good first half. Very comfortable and dominant.
Average second half. Poor final ball and decision making and made hard work of it against a dreadful Leeds side.
Leeds are garbage and we should have won that far more comfortably. We need to click again as an attacking unit before the play offs. Kodjia needs a goal.
Another piss poor atmosphere at VP. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, hopefully they remember how to sing in the play offs. Leeds' support was excellent considering the crap they're served up every week and every season.
30k plus twice in the space of four days is also very good. Not surprised you found fault though.
Didn't criticise the numbers did I? I agree they were two healthy crowds and would have been even higher if we were in the realistic hunt for 2nd. Noise-wise though it was dreadful tonight. People will dig me out for it no doubt but no-one can disagree. The atmosphere is shocking these days.
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It was another one of those games where we didn't seem to do very much to get the three points. I couldn't see them scoring though so it was fairly comfortable.
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I’m surprised old QV bothered with the match report. Should have just gone straight for the shit crowd m’lord routine as per.
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Very good first half. Very comfortable and dominant.
Average second half. Poor final ball and decision making and made hard work of it against a dreadful Leeds side.
Leeds are garbage and we should have won that far more comfortably. We need to click again as an attacking unit before the play offs. Kodjia needs a goal.
Another piss poor atmosphere at VP. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, hopefully they remember how to sing in the play offs. Leeds' support was excellent considering the crap they're served up every week and every season.
30k plus twice in the space of four days is also very good. Not surprised you found fault though.
Didn't criticise the numbers did I? I agree they were two healthy crowds and would have been even higher if we were in the realistic hunt for 2nd. Noise-wise though it was dreadful tonight. People will dig me out for it no doubt but no-one can disagree. The atmosphere is shocking these days.
Out of interest, where do you sit?
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It was another one of those games where we didn't seem to do very much to get the three points. I couldn't see them scoring though so it was fairly comfortable.
Yes I agree with that.
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Job done, thought Whelan & Onomah did very well in the centre & gave that base for likes of Jack to play.
Snodgrass looked like he was running on empty and now play offs are nailed on a hope he’ll be getting a rest against Ipswich.
Kodjia reminded me of the Kodjia of last year, when he isn’t scoring he is a bit of a liability, if he doesnt know what he is about to do there’s no chance his team mates do :-) thought he did ok the other night from bench and I’d hope that is his role for the next 6 games.
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A win is a win. Onwards to Portman Road, and I'll be rooting for Brentford today.
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Credit also to Jedinak, who has been faultless at centre back for these two quick successive games.
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Onomah had his best game for us, and Whelan and Elmo were excellent.
It’s a shame snodgrass has decided to be a bit shit again, just when it matters.
Jack, head and shoulders above anyone on the pitch.
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Kodjia not a team player it’s no coincidence that we’ve been better without him. Yes he was our star man with 20 goals last season but looked where we finished. He’s selfish and is not a team player we’re better off without him I think.
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Onomah had his best game for us, and Whelan and Elmo were excellent.
It’s a shame snodgrass has decided to be a bit shit again, just when it matters.
Jack, head and shoulders above anyone on the pitch.
I also agree with this.
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Re the crowd noise it came over in the 2nd half as them just being quite nervous and cagey that the ‘usually’ inevitable equaliser was coming.
Fun fact. This is the first season ever we have amassed 79 points.
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Very good first half. Very comfortable and dominant.
Average second half. Poor final ball and decision making and made hard work of it against a dreadful Leeds side.
Leeds are garbage and we should have won that far more comfortably. We need to click again as an attacking unit before the play offs. Kodjia needs a goal.
Another piss poor atmosphere at VP. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, hopefully they remember how to sing in the play offs. Leeds' support was excellent considering the crap they're served up every week and every season.
30k plus twice in the space of four days is also very good. Not surprised you found fault though.
Didn't criticise the numbers did I? I agree they were two healthy crowds and would have been even higher if we were in the realistic hunt for 2nd. Noise-wise though it was dreadful tonight. People will dig me out for it no doubt but no-one can disagree. The atmosphere is shocking these days.
Out of interest, where do you sit?
Oh hang on is it time for bed.... yes it's quite late (stretches , yawns and rests head on pillow)
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We’d didnt have to be at our best to win comfortably, all the defenders did well.
Onamah was bright with the ball, naive and undisciplined without it. We didn’t really click going forward in the way we did on Tuesday, too many tired bodies and minds.
A proper Villaman performance from Snodgrass, not a lot went right for him but he stuck at it and worked his arse off. Good on him.
It wasn’t till the game opened up that we had the chances to make the score line more comfortable, fair play to the Leeds fans who made quite a racket considering how little their side gave them to cheer.
Not a game that will live long in the memory.
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Not a great game but the schedule for us has been a bit ridiculous. Snodgrass needs a rest desperately as nothing he tried came off. Jack looked really threatening all night. Fair play to Whelan and Taylor who both had decent games.
Hogan though, what is the point of him?
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I know it's a case of 'if my auntie had bollocks' but jeeze, how costly does that 1 point from the QPR, Bolton, Hull and Norwich games look.
It's the Steve Bruce way though which is what makes his managerial tenure all the more frustrating. There was absolutely nothing to suggest coming off the high of Wolves, and even though he'd made no changes that our performance should have plummeted so dramatically vs QPR. Then further compounded by lacklustre displays against Bolton and Norwich with a surprisingly upbeat win vs Reading. All so bizarre. And then two decent wins in a row. It's all over the place. We should be locked in second place right now. But we're not.
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Very good first half. Very comfortable and dominant.
Average second half. Poor final ball and decision making and made hard work of it against a dreadful Leeds side.
Leeds are garbage and we should have won that far more comfortably. We need to click again as an attacking unit before the play offs. Kodjia needs a goal.
Another piss poor atmosphere at VP. The Holte is a shadow of it's former self, hopefully they remember how to sing in the play offs. Leeds' support was excellent considering the crap they're served up every week and every season.
30k plus twice in the space of four days is also very good. Not surprised you found fault though.
Didn't criticise the numbers did I? I agree they were two healthy crowds and would have been even higher if we were in the realistic hunt for 2nd. Noise-wise though it was dreadful tonight. People will dig me out for it no doubt but no-one can disagree. The atmosphere is shocking these days.
Out of interest, where do you sit?
On a high horse.
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Whelan ran the show tonight, the old warhorse was magnificent.
Must have rubbed off on Onhomah who played aswell as I've seen him in a Villa shirt.
I enjoyed the game wish we could of got the 2nd so we could have seen some skills from the lads.
Snod was really poor his free kicks were awful. Grealish just a pleasure to watch
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Strange game. Just seemed very easy but couldn't kill them off. They looked utter shite. I thought the atmosphere was great
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Not a great game but the schedule for us has been a bit ridiculous. Snodgrass needs a rest desperately as nothing he tried came off. Jack looked really threatening all night. Fair play to Whelan and Taylor who both had decent games.
Hogan though, what is the point of him?
Tonight he had the chance that some people reckon is his forte, running behind off the shoulder, but he doesn't have the pace.
I thought Adomah looked livelier than he has been coming off the bench so maybe Snoddy would benefit from a week off.
Their young keeper did well, but generally they were non-descript and we should've won by more.
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Hogan was shown up in the short time he was on, put through and in the clear he was caught and tackled, should have been a goal. I would rather try one of the young kids rather than persisting with him.
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Well we’re officially in the play-offs. Christ I’m already nervous.
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Hogan was shown up in the short time he was on, put through and in the clear he was caught and tackled, should have been a goal. I would rather try one of the young kids rather than persisting with him.
That was all about him not being able to kick with his left foot. If he'd taken the touch to put himself onto his left he'd have had a better angle for the shot and the defender would've had to foul him to get a tackle in, by letting the ball drift onto his right foot he made it easy for the defender. I twas piss poor and, having tried to defend him because we kept launching high balls at him which he couldn't do anything with, I've given up on him now. I'd rather see RHM get these little 20-25minute runs from the bench because he's got a much more rounded game and has natural pace in his favour.
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Incredible performance.
Bearing in mind we have at least six players who can trap a ball further than most mortals can kick it.
Play offs? Yay! (partyhat and poppers emoticon).
But based on the Cardiff and Leedzzz showings we will need gutting from top to bottom if we somehow sneak back into the PL. Yorkshire's thickest (considering the competition, that's impressive) gave us a window into the true horror of an extended stay in this league tonight.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
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One of the few games where I was impressed with Whelan. Generally we looked good, but then there is this feeling that we will fuck anything up, so I watch the game with negative eyes, so I don't get to disappointed
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Strange thing happened tonight the ref had a good game
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Strange thing happened tonight the ref had a good game
UEFA are investigating and will make sure that he never sets foot on a pitch for a Real Merde match
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One of the few games where I was impressed with Whelan. Generally we looked good, but then there is this feeling that we will fuck anything up, so I watch the game with negative eyes, so I don't get to disappointed
That fucking body check he put on Viera (?) near the end of the match was fucking awesome.
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Strange thing happened tonight the ref had a good game
I thought the ref was good tonight as well. Let some physical stuff go, but seemed to get most things right and wasn't card happy.
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Hogan was shown up in the short time he was on, put through and in the clear he was caught and tackled, should have been a goal. I would rather try one of the young kids rather than persisting with him.
I agree with the calls for Snodgrass to have a rest and would be tempted to start Davis with Grabban and Kodjia either side of him.
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Incredible performance.
Bearing in mind we have at least six players who can trap a ball further than most mortals can kick it.
Play offs? Yay! (partyhat and poppers emoticon).
But based on the Cardiff and Leedzzz showings we will need gutting from top to bottom if we somehow sneak back into the PL. Yorkshire's thickest (considering the competition, that's impressive) gave us a window into the true horror of an extended stay in this league tonight.
Let's get the fuck out of here.
If there was a Like button on here I would like to like this.
I’ll just use 8)
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Hogan was shown up in the short time he was on, put through and in the clear he was caught and tackled, should have been a goal. I would rather try one of the young kids rather than persisting with him.
That was all about him not being able to kick with his left foot. If he'd taken the touch to put himself onto his left he'd have had a better angle for the shot and the defender would've had to foul him to get a tackle in, by letting the ball drift onto his right foot he made it easy for the defender. I twas piss poor and, having tried to defend him because we kept launching high balls at him which he couldn't do anything with, I've given up on him now. I'd rather see RHM get these little 20-25minute runs from the bench because he's got a much more rounded game and has natural pace in his favour.
there a very good player in there, apparently.
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I really don't understand any criticism of the lack of atmosphere last night - I was in the Holte and thought they were making a lot of noise. Overall, a muted performance but we did enough to put pressure on Fulham and Cardiff. It might be over reacting but Kodjia looks a shadow of his former self and there is no point in playing Hogan again.
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Rested players and did enough to win the game, decent first half and competent second. Grealish had another impressive game, that little scooped pass to Albert late on was particularly brilliant. The defence was solid, bringing Samba on with a few minutes left is a nice bit of insurance and something that might make the difference in the play offs.
Getting the train after the game, I felt sorry for the two young girls dressed to the nines for their big Friday night in town to suddenly be sorrounded by loads of scruffy, sweaty football fans. Small compensation in that it was a carriage of mostly middle aged blokes grumpy with being kept off the platforms for 20 minutes rather than the “tits out for the lads” brigade.
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Great 3 points again, team and fans each playing their parts. It seems someone on here writes his/her posts for the benefit of opponent fans' forums. Sooooo sad!
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
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I thought Sáiz looked very useful for Leeds when he came on, they looked a better team after that. Once it got into the last 20-25 minutes it was fairly clear we'd weathered any storm.
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Was he the huge fella wearing 11?
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Was he the huge fella wearing 11?
No, the number 21.
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
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Well we’re officially in the play-offs. Christ I’m already nervous.
I'm excited but I know what you mean. We have a guaranteed shot at going up. 4 more points and we guarantee our opponent will be coming to a packed Villa Park under the lights.
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I really don't understand any criticism of the lack of atmosphere last night - I was in the Holte and thought they were making a lot of noise.
It’s Quinton, ignore, it’s what he does. Wait for the end of the season when he publishes the spreadsheets with details of the atmosphere at each game and how good the opposition fans were in comparison.
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I was in a Pub with the sound turned down and a band playing, the atmosphere was terrible.
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There was a spell where the Leeds fans found encouragement with Hernandez trying to take out somebody in the upper North and they had a sing song for some time. They made a lot of noise for a small away following. But we responded and I thought it was a good atmosphere myself.
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I really don't understand any criticism of the lack of atmosphere last night - I was in the Holte and thought they were making a lot of noise.
It’s Quinton, ignore, it’s what he does. Wait for the end of the season when he publishes the spreadsheets with details of the atmosphere at each game and how good the opposition fans were in comparison.
The only sheets he’ll produce will be wet.
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There was a spell where the Leeds fans found encouragement with Hernandez trying to take out somebody in the upper North and they had a sing song for some time. They made a lot of noise for a small away following. But we responded and I thought it was a good atmosphere myself.
Yes, I thought Leeds went very quiet again once they realised it wasn't happening for them.
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
I was going south and when we finally got up there the first one was New St only and was already pretty full with people who must have got on at Witton. What makes it more annoying was there was no stewards on Tuesday so was able to get straight on the platform. I should have just gone to the pub with the others.
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I missed the second half after finding out my mate was in hospital: after getting T-Boned by a presumably blind driver doing an unannounced u-turn... (My pal now needs surgery on a smashed clavicle & a new motorcycle)
I got in to find we'd managed to snaffle the three points, but reports suggested we weren't as good in the second half. Still, I'm please for the back-to-back victories; & hopeful of building some momentum now for the Play Off's.
Up The Village.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
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We created more chances second half,but were more wasteful in the first 20 minutes or so with possession.
Leeds went from being absolutely woeful to poor and didn't come close to mounting a threat.
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I thought the Leeds team was full of energy but very naive. Their shooting reminded me of how much I don’t miss Tonev. Fair play to their fans they turned up and were very noisy. And the fact that Leeds still have a good following despite years and years of shit being served to them however historically I hate their fans and the club. So actually they deserve all that shit😂
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By no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today.
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Well I expected the atmosphere to be awful where I was in the corporate bit and I was surprised how good the atmosphere felt from there. Could hear the Holte regularly and loudly at times, and the atmosphere bounced around the ground from Holte to North Stand to Leeds fans. There was even a bit of singing where we were at times because The Holte was loud enough for us to join in!
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I thought that with all of their injuries/suspensions, we could and should have beaten them by quite some margin.
If we are to keep the dream alive, we need Fulham and Cardiff to slip up twice in 4 and 5 games respectively. Even then, it could well go down to goal difference and we had a golden opportunity to ensure ours would be better than the other 2 last night.
Yes, I appreciate that it's a long shot and if my Uncle had been my Aunt etc but I cannot let go of the dream whilst it is still possible. I am terrified of the play offs like some people are terrified of tarantulas and will continue to pray for a miracle.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
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We can only be terrified of play offs whilst there is still a little hope of auto however when that disappears this weekend of next we will be delighted and relishing the opportunity earned.
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We can only be terrified of play offs whilst there is still a little hope of auto however when that disappears this weekend of next we will be delighted and relishing the opportunity earned.
This is Villa - we'll go into the last day with auto still being on, and then miss out due to a 97th minute Millwall equaliser.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
You are correct Edge. Lower Holte is full of long sitting old codgers. I mean RE at 47 had probably fallen asleep at kick off time (says someone considerably older). Answer is to ban anyone over 30 from sitting in lower Holte. Lower North is the place for noise full of young ones.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
That's an interesting point. I've been standing/sitting in the Holte for yonks but now I have kids have ventured into other parts of the ground and the sound often seems less than I know it would be if I was sat there. Thought the atmosphere was OK last night.
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We can only be terrified of play offs whilst there is still a little hope of auto however when that disappears this weekend of next we will be delighted and relishing the opportunity earned.
Very true, especially if we end up in 4th place.
The only thing I would question is whether we earned it. I think it stinks that a team who finishes 6th has the same opportunity to go up than the team who finishes 3rd. I know it makes exciting watching and generates a bit of cash but if 3 places are available, they should go to the 3 teams who really have earned them, ie the top 3.
I'd also say that we bought it rather than earned it.
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If they will insist on having these evening games that kick off after my bedtime it's no wonder I can't sing loudly.
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By no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today.
Spot on that's exactly how I viewed things last night - nice to walk away from Villa Park feeling like you got your money's worth - Hogan aside who just does not look interested.
I thought the atmosphere was good - Only downer on the night was the journey to and from B6 from the North West - the M6 is an absolute joke
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
Sorry if you took that personal. I'm only saying that the bulk of the singing coming from the back of the holte gets lost due to the two tiered design. If they all congregated in the lower holte it would make a big difference. Just pointing out the obvious really in reply to people questioning why the atmosphere is sometimes a bit dull.
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By no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today.
Spot on that's exactly how I viewed things last night - nice to walk away from Villa Park feeling like you got your money's worth - Hogan aside who just does not look interested.
I thought the atmosphere was good - Only downer on the night was the journey to and from B6 from the North West - the M6 is an absolute joke
I'm not sure about Hogan not being interested. His goal against Reading suggests he is.
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By no means a vintage performance very wasteful with our possession at times. Grealish was superb, Snodgrass awful but he kept trying, Whelan very solid, Onomah very good and despite some of the criticism on here I thought Kodjia played well considering he was only going to be fit enough for about 60 minutes. Thought Grabban was very useful as well. Job done, and attention turns to Cardiff and Fulham today.
Spot on that's exactly how I viewed things last night - nice to walk away from Villa Park feeling like you got your money's worth - Hogan aside who just does not look interested.
I thought the atmosphere was good - Only downer on the night was the journey to and from B6 from the North West - the M6 is an absolute joke
I'm not sure about Hogan not being interested. His goal against Reading suggests he is.
I agree with this. I don't think his effort can be questioned. It's our style of play that doesn't suit his game. I think he would of scored20 plus in the wolves team this year.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
Sorry if you took that personal. I'm only saying that the bulk of the singing coming from the back of the holte gets lost due to the two tiered design. If they all congregated in the lower holte it would make a big difference. Just pointing out the obvious really in reply to people questioning why the atmosphere is sometimes a bit dull.
Don’t worry. I’m pathologically incapable of taking anything seriously.
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I'm surrounded by way more old gits with dodgy knees in L9 now than I ever was in A4.
Well, maybe not quite, but it ain't far off.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
Sorry if you took that personal. I'm only saying that the bulk of the singing coming from the back of the holte gets lost due to the two tiered design. If they all congregated in the lower holte it would make a big difference. Just pointing out the obvious really in reply to people questioning why the atmosphere is sometimes a bit dull.
Don’t worry. I’m pathologically incapable of taking anything seriously.
Me too 😉
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
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I had a ball. Pints in the Bartons, followed by a Pad Thai. Few gifts for the kids from the club shop, followed by a routine win. More pints on Broad Street, washed down with a kebab accompanied by old school hard house at jet engine level decibels - which was unexpected! I thought Onomah was game. Whelan was solid. Grabban and Grealish worked well together. Jedi did his job well. Special mention for Snoddy who worked his bollix off, defending from the front for the last 15 mins. They all played well, to be fair. Can't wait to return.
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."
I live within walking distance of the ground and as such I'm oblivious of this situation. How the hell has this been allowed to go on by the club, and the train operators. Surely extra trains makes sense all round from a commercial and safety point of view? Why aren't the club onto this?
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."
I live within walking distance of the ground and as such I'm oblivious of this situation. How the hall has this been allowed by the club, and the train operators. Surely extra trains makes sense all round from a commercial and safety point of view? Why aren't the club onto this?
The club have tried. It's the train companies that don't want to know.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
isn’t this what the Brigada guys were trying to do? - start a singing colony in the LHolte? What happened to that?
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."
I live within walking distance of the ground and as such I'm oblivious of this situation. How the hall has this been allowed by the club, and the train operators. Surely extra trains makes sense all round from a commercial and safety point of view? Why aren't the club onto this?
The club have tried. It's the train companies that don't want to know.
I wonder if an official approach to Tory Boy Street might have any impact?
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I do wonder about the communication between WM Railways and the Club, surely some dialogue about tickets sales and expected crowd may lead to them putting on a suitable amount of trains. The 10.15 northward has three carriages and was ridiculously overcrowded, three NS bound trains came the other way whilst I was on the other platform.
Not a criticism of Villa obv.
We keep asking, they keep ignoring.
I hoped ‘new brooms’ and all that.
I'm going over old ground here so apologies for that, but for years and whoever was in charge of both railways and club, there's been no co-operation. I know we've tried to get some sort of matchday discounted travel but it's never got off the ground. As one Villa staff member said, "Concerts and rugby World Cup, they'll put extra trains on. Villa matches and they don't want to know."
We're just football fans though.
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The perceived lack of atmosphere that QV keeps going on and on and on about can also be attributed to the acoustics in the stadium depending upon where the listener is located.
It's been the same ever since the holte got rebuilt. The fact that it's two tier and fecking huge means a lot of the singing dissipates into the ether. The answer is quite simple.The main bulk of the singing needs to come from the lower holte a where they would be more audible and more visible. But I think that's unlikely due to the amount of people who've had their seats in the lower holte for a long time.
Sorry. I'll try harder in future.
Sorry if you took that personal. I'm only saying that the bulk of the singing coming from the back of the holte gets lost due to the two tiered design. If they all congregated in the lower holte it would make a big difference. Just pointing out the obvious really in reply to people questioning why the atmosphere is sometimes a bit dull.
Don’t worry. I’m pathologically incapable of taking anything seriously.
Aren't you a Manics fan? You've had years to learn to scream like James Dean B. so, like, get to it.
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Aren't you a Manics fan?
There's no need for that. I'd apologise if I were you.
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Aren't you a Manics fan?
There's no need for that. I'd apologise if I were you.
If you tolerate these trains, then your buses will be next.
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Aren't you a Manics fan?
There's no need for that. I'd apologise if I were you.
If you tolerate these trains, then your buses will be next.
And with the motorcycle emptiness we'll all have to come by car or walk it.
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Yes, they're Forever Delayed. It's caused me Sorrow 16 times at least.
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Fucking hell, a Manic Street Preachers punathon, how low this once great site has sunk.
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Fucking hell, a Manic Street Preachers punathon, how low this once great site has sunk.
It’s gone from despair to where?
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Villa fans. Lions led by Donkeys.
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Villa fans. Lions led by Donkeys.
Asston Villa ?
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La Tristesse Durera.
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We need to sing up. We don't want an atmosphere like a Mausoleum. Just imagine this is yesterday and Cardiff haven't beaten Norwich yet.
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This thread has taken a nosedive. A bit like Richey Edwards off the Severn Bridge.
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This thread has taken a nosedive. A bit like Richey Edwards off the Severn Bridge.
<applause>
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This thread has taken a nosedive. A bit like Richey Edwards off the Severn Bridge.
You've stole the sun from this thread
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Mr Edwards took a shine to my ex and used to write her notes with quotes from various bits of literature and poetry etc, should have kept them and released them as a lost Manics album. He also used to walk round with a half empty bottle of vodka which nobody ever saw him drink from, he was never required for soundchecks. The drummer is a miserable short arse and the singer is a nice bloke who took it well when I told him to fuck off when he asked if I was a West Ham fan. That's my Manics 'gossip'.
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They were one of the main acts at a festival I went to a while back. We stayed in our tents. That's the closest I've ever got to see them and a bit too close for my liking.
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They're one of my all-time favourite bands but the new album is "Time to call it a day, lads" territory.
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This thread has taken a nosedive. A bit like Richey Edwards off the Severn Bridge.
Suicide is Painless.
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This thread has taken a nosedive. A bit like Richey Edwards off the Severn Bridge.
Suicide is Painless.
Especially when you only weigh 4st 7lb.