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Offline andyh

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #735 on: June 12, 2018, 11:54:24 AM »
Just playing devils advocate, why is Wyness being portrayed as the bad guy?
We don’t know the facts.

Is it at all possible that he could see the shit was about to hit the fan and tried to do something about it?

He may well be a despicable fat ******, BUT, we don’t know for sure.

At the end of the day, the buck stops with the top man, and right now, I am seeing him as a more despicable ****** than wyness.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #736 on: June 12, 2018, 11:59:12 AM »
Just playing devils advocate, why is Wyness being portrayed as the bad guy?
We don’t know the facts.

Is it at all possible that he could see the shit was about to hit the fan and tried to do something about it?

He may well be a despicable fat c***, BUT, we don’t know for sure.

At the end of the day, the buck stops with the top man, and right now, I am seeing him as a more despicable c*** than wyness.


So we don't know all the facts so shouldn't judge Wyness but Xia is a despicable c***.

Well, that's fair and even-handed.

Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #737 on: June 12, 2018, 12:13:26 PM »
There are nothing but bad guys IMO. They've all presided over arguably the most shameful period in Villa's history. The fans have continued to turn up in numbers and the execs and money men have continued to exploit our support and our faith by playing an elaborate, real-life game of Pay Day at the expense of AVFC.

It's inane trying to pick a side between Xia & Wyness. They are both equally culpable. I couldn't care less if Wyness thought he was doing the right thing in the end, it was a fool's gambit after all the damage had been done. If it's even true that he was acting to try to save the club from financial doom, then it was a doom of his making. He was the person giving assurances that there was a Plan B in the event of failure. Evidently he lied.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #738 on: June 12, 2018, 12:40:51 PM »
I go back to you putting yourself in his shoes.  He was an employee with fiduciary duties as a Director.   This may not be as black and white as you suggest.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #739 on: June 12, 2018, 12:47:57 PM »
The solution to Wyness is surely a small, waffer' thin piece of ham, no?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #740 on: June 12, 2018, 12:48:40 PM »
'Alexa can I manage one more small waffer'

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #741 on: June 12, 2018, 12:55:07 PM »
I go back to you putting yourself in his shoes.  He was an employee with fiduciary duties as a Director.   This may not be as black and white as you suggest.

As I said, if we were over-spending on his watch, with no back-up plan (and it was made evident that the Plan A/Plan B scenarios were under his remit & sign-off), then I frankly have no sympathy for how hard he was trying to clean up the mess in the end. We shouldn't have got to the point where he was scrambling for a way out for the club.

Offline Risso

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #742 on: June 12, 2018, 01:26:17 PM »
He's officially gone:

Clicky

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #743 on: June 12, 2018, 01:36:25 PM »
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The Club will be happy to defend legal proceedings if called on to do so and does not propose to comment further at this time

More than likely to issue this statement they have taken advice and feel their case is a sound one.

I think Xia is a genuine man, he maybe naïve, but I do not think he is crooked like the hairdresser

Offline Clark W Griswold

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #744 on: June 12, 2018, 01:41:38 PM »
You can only say what your gut instinct tells you but I see Wyness as a fat red faced cock end who would look more appropriate sitting on a battered old sofa in his y fronts eating many packets of cheese puffs and watching Jeremy Kyle than sitting in the Villa boardroom in a suit. Xia seems genuine if misguided and gave it a good go, I think he's suffered from restrictions from China. I think he needs to be more involved from now on mind.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #745 on: June 12, 2018, 01:52:27 PM »
Amazing how many people have decided Wyness is a ****** on the basis of him doing what was his fiduciary duty as a company director.

So now we have no CEO. Unless Dr Xia is going to do it.

Who is filled with confidence by that idea?

What an unholy mess.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #746 on: June 12, 2018, 01:56:43 PM »
Amazing how many people have decided Wyness is a c*** on the basis of him doing what was his fiduciary duty as a company director.

So now we have no CEO. Unless Dr Xia is going to do it.

Who is filled with confidence by that idea?

What an unholy mess.

Surely, his first duty is to the owner and if he cannot get any sense from him, he resigns before his duties as a director come into play.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #747 on: June 12, 2018, 02:03:23 PM »
Amazing how many people have decided Wyness is a c*** on the basis of him doing what was his fiduciary duty as a company director.


Not if he was also leaking details to prospective buyers/vultures and touting himself as a man to keep in the job. Instead of dicking about with "Reveal Grabban!" videos for our social media, why weren't he and the FD making it clear to Xia of an iceberg ahead and assuring the fans that we had a solid Plan B in place?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #748 on: June 12, 2018, 02:48:23 PM »
I go back to you putting yourself in his shoes.  He was an employee with fiduciary duties as a Director.   This may not be as black and white as you suggest.

As I said, if we were over-spending on his watch, with no back-up plan (and it was made evident that the Plan A/Plan B scenarios were under his remit & sign-off), then I frankly have no sympathy for how hard he was trying to clean up the mess in the end. We shouldn't have got to the point where he was scrambling for a way out for the club.

If the owner had a plan to continue to invest to fund growth (ie success) as well as plugging the working capital deficit every month, then apart from advise him, there isn't a lot else you can do.  The owner is now showing signs of being extremely thin skinned (the crying like a man baby on his tweet last week and his seemingly pissedoffedness at Wyness suggesting Administration) so it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that Wyness would have been ignored anyway if advising him on the ills of continual investment.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #749 on: June 12, 2018, 03:18:51 PM »
Amazing how many people have decided Wyness is a c*** on the basis of him doing what was his fiduciary duty as a company director.

So now we have no CEO. Unless Dr Xia is going to do it.

Who is filled with confidence by that idea?

What an unholy mess.

Surely, his first duty is to the owner and if he cannot get any sense from him, he resigns before his duties as a director come into play.

Nope, his first duty is to the company.

 


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