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Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #690 on: June 11, 2018, 12:44:33 PM »
Although Xia liked to be seen to be involved in everything, Wyness would have had a certain limit of authority, whereby Xia probably didn't sign off everything. It was noticeable that Xia didn't seem to be so hands-on last season as the first.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #691 on: June 11, 2018, 12:44:50 PM »
Indeed, for £6m for constructive dismissal according the Torygraph. Knowing how much trouble the club is in that's a pretty cowardly low blow if true.

Probably being advised by a certain M. O'Neill.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #692 on: June 11, 2018, 12:49:27 PM »
An Employment Tribunal doesn’t have jurisdiction to award damages of anything like £6 million in a constructive dismissal claim and could only hear a claim against individuals other than the employer in a discrimination case. I suspect what’s actually being threatened is some sort of breach of contract claim in the High Court.

 Unless we’ve been misinformed about his salary or there are massive bonus or pension provisions I’m struggling to see where the figure could come from.

Damages to his professional reputation maybe?  If he argues that the club's action has made it impossible for him to be re-employed in the football industry and he earns an average of £500K a year?  Something like that maybe?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #693 on: June 11, 2018, 12:50:50 PM »
Where do we keep finding these fucking people?

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #694 on: June 11, 2018, 12:53:38 PM »
Will probably get settled out of court.

Hopefully Xia didn't just dismiss him in a pique of rage and there were justifiable grounds for his dismissal as we need this claim like a hole in the head.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #695 on: June 11, 2018, 12:55:32 PM »
Will probably get settled out of court.

Hopefully Xia didn't just dismiss him in a pique of rage and there were justifiable grounds for his dismissal as we need this claim like a hole in the head.

I would say that's almost certainly what happened.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #696 on: June 11, 2018, 01:02:14 PM »
Will there come a day when people stop taking the royal piss out of our club?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #697 on: June 11, 2018, 01:02:27 PM »
Will probably get settled out of court.

Hopefully Xia didn't just dismiss him in a pique of rage and there were justifiable grounds for his dismissal as we need this claim like a hole in the head.

I would say that's almost certainly what happened.

Well that's a bit of a disaster then. Really hope it dosen't come out that it was just a case of Xias massively upset at losing the final, hears from one of his Chinese assistants Wyness is talking to people behind his back and then just effectively sacks him without properly investigating.

Wyness has a good case if that's how it played out.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #698 on: June 11, 2018, 01:04:52 PM »
Will probably get settled out of court.

Hopefully Xia didn't just dismiss him in a pique of rage and there were justifiable grounds for his dismissal as we need this claim like a hole in the head.

I would say that's almost certainly what happened.

Easy money for Wyness. When they showed Xia's face after the final whistle, it wouldn't take a genius to see that a bit of prodding would get a certain reaction.


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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #699 on: June 11, 2018, 01:08:45 PM »
I thought Wyness is suspended.

Offline old man villa fan

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #700 on: June 11, 2018, 01:18:15 PM »
An Employment Tribunal doesn’t have jurisdiction to award damages of anything like £6 million in a constructive dismissal claim and could only hear a claim against individuals other than the employer in a discrimination case. I suspect what’s actually being threatened is some sort of breach of contract claim in the High Court.

 Unless we’ve been misinformed about his salary or there are massive bonus or pension provisions I’m struggling to see where the figure could come from.

Damages to his professional reputation maybe?  If he argues that the club's action has made it impossible for him to be re-employed in the football industry and he earns an average of £500K a year?  Something like that maybe?

If he wins, wouldn't his reputation be intact and therefore would be able to get a job in football again and a financial claim wouldn't be valid. It would then go back to a breach of contract i.e. incorrect method of termination of contract if that was the case.

Or would it be on the grounds of not being able to get another job that over paid to the level we did.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #701 on: June 11, 2018, 01:18:22 PM »
I thought Wyness is suspended.

You really didn’t/don’t think he’s coming back after this?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #702 on: June 11, 2018, 01:23:33 PM »
"Alexa, how many pies could I buy with 6 million pounds?"

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #703 on: June 11, 2018, 01:24:08 PM »
An Employment Tribunal doesn’t have jurisdiction to award damages of anything like £6 million in a constructive dismissal claim and could only hear a claim against individuals other than the employer in a discrimination case. I suspect what’s actually being threatened is some sort of breach of contract claim in the High Court.

 Unless we’ve been misinformed about his salary or there are massive bonus or pension provisions I’m struggling to see where the figure could come from.

Damages to his professional reputation maybe?  If he argues that the club's action has made it impossible for him to be re-employed in the football industry and he earns an average of £500K a year?  Something like that maybe?

If he wins, wouldn't his reputation be intact and therefore would be able to get a job in football again and a financial claim wouldn't be valid. It would then go back to a breach of contract i.e. incorrect method of termination of contract if that was the case.

Or would it be on the grounds of not being able to get another job that over paid to the level we did.


Surely if you advised the owner to go all out on promotion and ignore FFP for two years to the club's detriment as well as presumably recommending Bruce etc., your professional reputation would be pretty trashed anyway?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #704 on: June 11, 2018, 01:24:54 PM »
I thought Wyness is suspended.

You really didn’t/don’t think he’s coming back after this?
No but people keep saying he is dismissed.
So he can’t claim unfair dismissal he can claim constructive dismissal.
The correct procedure by the club is to conduct an investigation concerning his conduct and then reach a decision.
The club can delay any legal action whilst they investigate.
The point I am making is that he is a very long way from receiving any compensation.

 


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