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Offline AsTallAsLions

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #525 on: June 05, 2018, 09:29:26 PM »
This is conjecture, the veracity of which we'll probably never know, but what are the chances we'd have been sold for a tidy profit if we'd won the Playoff Final? I'd say Xia has been hoping he could sell up as soon as China imposed the capital controls and being back in PL would have allowed him to do that for a sizeable gain. Now we're in the shit and he'll struggle to find anyone who'll touch us.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #526 on: June 05, 2018, 09:29:57 PM »
So, Trevor Birch worked with Ken Bates.
Twice.

That is really, really reassuring.

Okay; I lied.

He almost joined us back in 2004 as Mark Ansell's replacement.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #527 on: June 05, 2018, 09:31:11 PM »
This is conjecture, the veracity of which we'll probably never know, but what are the chances we'd have been sold for a tidy profit if we'd won the Playoff Final? I'd say Xia has been hoping he could sell up as soon as China imposed the capital controls and being back in PL would have allowed him to do that for a sizeable gain. Now we're in the shit and he'll struggle to find anyone who'll touch us.

In light of what's happening now, I'd say that was a fair outside bet.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #528 on: June 05, 2018, 09:34:52 PM »
It is said Wyness, in his duty to find financial alternatives, was trying to raise funds through minor investors but Xia reacted badly to advice and temporarily dismissed his top executive.

In an alternative version of events it has been claimed Wyness attempting to bring together a consortium to buy the club without Xia’s prior knowledge. The Chinese businessman then found out and acted.



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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #529 on: June 05, 2018, 09:35:33 PM »
This is conjecture, the veracity of which we'll probably never know, but what are the chances we'd have been sold for a tidy profit if we'd won the Playoff Final? I'd say Xia has been hoping he could sell up as soon as China imposed the capital controls and being back in PL would have allowed him to do that for a sizeable gain. Now we're in the shit and he'll struggle to find anyone who'll touch us.

In light of what's happening now, I'd say that was a fair outside bet.
Are China not pumping millions into football, at every level, I know for a fact they are at school level?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #530 on: June 05, 2018, 09:35:44 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #531 on: June 05, 2018, 09:38:14 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

See  i don't believe that. Why would any responsible CE do that?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #532 on: June 05, 2018, 09:39:12 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

If that was the case you could say that Wyness was acting in the best interests of the club, if Xia hadn't the money to pay the bills?

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #533 on: June 05, 2018, 09:40:29 PM »
Collymore intimating that Wynnes was doing it behind his back with a “keep me on” as part of any deal.
He said:


My understanding.

1. Financial situation is grave.

2. Owner feels betrayed by more than one person at club.

3. Suggestion that behind TX back touting of club has happened by individuals.

4. Individuals looking after themselves( "buy club, keep me on")

Also this just posted.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5809685/Aston-Villa-turmoil-failure-pay-tax-bill-5m.html

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #534 on: June 05, 2018, 09:40:42 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

See  i don't believe that. Why would any responsible CE do that?
The key word is "Responsible".
If Wyness believed that the Doc was unable or unwilling to ship cash to the Club, maybe he thought it was the only way out of a short-term cash crisis.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #535 on: June 05, 2018, 09:41:20 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

See  i don't believe that. Why would any responsible CE do that?

Responsible being the word.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #536 on: June 05, 2018, 09:43:16 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

See  i don't believe that. Why would any responsible CE do that?
The key word is "Responsible".
If Wyness believed that the Doc was unable or unwilling to ship cash to the Club, maybe he thought it was the only way out of a short-term cash crisis.

Doesn't matter. It's not in his remit. The CE doesn't just go off on his own touting behind a company's owner or shareholders. It if goes tits-up then its not down to him. Smell like typical SVC bullshit

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #537 on: June 05, 2018, 09:46:27 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

See  i don't believe that. Why would any responsible CE do that?
The key word is "Responsible".
If Wyness believed that the Doc was unable or unwilling to ship cash to the Club, maybe he thought it was the only way out of a short-term cash crisis.

Doesn't matter. It's not in his remit. The CE doesn't just go off on his own touting behind a company's owner or shareholders. It if goes tits-up then its not down to him. Smell like typical SVC bullshit
Well, it may or may not be SVC BS but Wyness is well connected in football circles (apparently) and might well have been 'fishing' for support - if only to save being embarrassed by a financial crisis on his watch.

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #538 on: June 05, 2018, 09:46:51 PM »
Yeah I agree

More likely that they just disagreed on the way fwd to try and improve our cashflow

Its very hard to tell where Tony is on the charlatan scale at the moment. It could be that ffp and Chinese capital controls genuinely are constraining him from what he wants to do.

But the ffp risk was eminently spottable from.the outset

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Re: Keith Wyness
« Reply #539 on: June 05, 2018, 09:47:42 PM »
Collymore on Twitter suggesting that Wyness was touting the club to buyers behind Xia's back.

See  i don't believe that. Why would any responsible CE do that?
The key word is "Responsible".
If Wyness believed that the Doc was unable or unwilling to ship cash to the Club, maybe he thought it was the only way out of a short-term cash crisis.

Doesn't matter. It's not in his remit. The CE doesn't just go off on his own touting behind a company's owner or shareholders. It if goes tits-up then its not down to him. Smell like typical SVC bullshit

Same reported by Dail Mail now

As posted earlier all chinese investers are struggling now ( seems if Wolves hadn't gone up they would have same issue ) but Wyness as CE shouldn't go behind Xia back but Xia cant get cash into club and is living in fantasy world then perhaps Wyness did the only thing he could to keep club going ..

My concern is due to pride Xia is going to try and keep it going when its clear he has failed and in no position to change things around

 


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