Keith Wyness

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Actually Round is Technical Director not DoF.

He's certainly qualified for the job as was explained when he joined us.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/09/01/round-appointed

Whether recruitment should be part of his remit is another story. Maybe he compiles the data on targets and presents them to Xia and Wyness.

[ChicagoLion]

Actually Round is Technical Director not DoF.

He's certainly qualified for the job as was explained when he joined us.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2016/09/01/round-appointed

Whether recruitment should be part of his remit is another story. Maybe he compiles the data on targets and presents them to Xia and Wyness.

Not sure how that explains he is qualified, never held the post before, has done an MSC.

Wiki says he is DOF.

[eamonn]

I trust you weren't referring to me, Eamonn. FWIW I find Newby's insightful tale very believable.

No, agree with you, I meant Ads and the Xx.

[CT Villan]

Pravda says DOF too.

[XXVilla]

All leave cancelled?  What the effing hell does that mean?  and what difference will that actually make to the running of the first team? 

You're taking it literally. It is a figure of speech which suggests that everyone is giving 100% to improve things. Hrs not saying they're eating Xmas dinner at BMH or something.

Even Micah Richards?

He's probably in his santa costume, screaming with laughter.

Micah top scorer in the Manc celeb 10 pin bowling league apparently. Beat both Ashley Young and Lady Gaga.

[Dougs Socks]

My new boss at work happens to be a former pro footballer and a short term contracts director of football.  Really clued up and knows lots of people.  Gave me a story about his club hosting the pre-match meal for the Villa Directors.  Steve Round took his son, Wyness took a mate along with him,  my boss felt that they were not professional enough for such a big club. He came away thinking that there is absolutely zero football knowledge on the Villa Board.  He described Steve Round is a frustrated coach and lacks depth of knowledge in how to run a whole football club. My boss once interviewed Bruce for a job and describes him as a serial survivor but needs money, lacks personality.  He feels that Villa are easy to mug off due to the lack of nous on the Board. I agree with him.

Everton in my mind, are a big club. Not doubting you, but whenever a club is in a mess, people always seem to come out with these stories. Why never before?

[Canadian Villa]

My new boss at work happens to be a former pro footballer and a short term contracts director of football.  Really clued up and knows lots of people.  Gave me a story about his club hosting the pre-match meal for the Villa Directors.  Steve Round took his son, Wyness took a mate along with him,  my boss felt that they were not professional enough for such a big club. He came away thinking that there is absolutely zero football knowledge on the Villa Board.  He described Steve Round is a frustrated coach and lacks depth of knowledge in how to run a whole football club. My boss once interviewed Bruce for a job and describes him as a serial survivor but needs money, lacks personality.  He feels that Villa are easy to mug off due to the lack of nous on the Board. I agree with him.

I appreciate you trying to share some wisdom here, and you are passing on the message that you received, but you always have to read between the lines.
It isn't a big deal if Round and Wyness brings other people along. What did your boss think that they should have done? I saw a Wigan director last year with his kid at VP. They were having a good day out. If business is to be conducted then I don't that they would bring a kid along.
Your boss is no longer in football. Why is that? Perhaps he is a failed football director and he opinion on others doesn't carry a lot of weight. What football knowledge does he has? Round was a coach and first team manager assistant for many years and not running the  club. Wyness is a CEO (I would prefer him to have more knowledge about business than football) and been a part of football for many years.
I would say that your boss was mugged off and is no longer in football because he wasn't good enough and would make the wrong assumptions. I read Simon Jordan's book and he makes it look like he was the saviour of Palace and it wasn't his fault but others, but the fact is that he didn't have a clue what he was doing and all of the decisions ultimately were bad ones.

[Broadlee]

I've had the pleasure of meeting with Steve Round when he was involved in the Derby academy following his forced early retirement. I was involved in the Academy audits at the time. Steve then was not too happy with the way football was developing and had already embarked on his licences. He came across then as genuine in his desire to improve the way clubs operate for the players and for the fans. I next met him at lilleshall when he was with Everton and provided coaching sessions for the FA S of E. Same passion great ideas and drive. I'm glad he's at my club because he delivers. I have no doubt Wyness would have seen this in him then. Best wishes for 2018 and onwards Steve, Keith and the great support of this great club

[pauliewalnuts]

My new boss at work happens to be a former pro footballer and a short term contracts director of football.  Really clued up and knows lots of people.  Gave me a story about his club hosting the pre-match meal for the Villa Directors.  Steve Round took his son, Wyness took a mate along with him,  my boss felt that they were not professional enough for such a big club. He came away thinking that there is absolutely zero football knowledge on the Villa Board.  He described Steve Round is a frustrated coach and lacks depth of knowledge in how to run a whole football club. My boss once interviewed Bruce for a job and describes him as a serial survivor but needs money, lacks personality.  He feels that Villa are easy to mug off due to the lack of nous on the Board. I agree with him.

I appreciate you trying to share some wisdom here, and you are passing on the message that you received, but you always have to read between the lines.
It isn't a big deal if Round and Wyness brings other people along. What did your boss think that they should have done? I saw a Wigan director last year with his kid at VP. They were having a good day out. If business is to be conducted then I don't that they would bring a kid along.
Your boss is no longer in football. Why is that? Perhaps he is a failed football director and he opinion on others doesn't carry a lot of weight. What football knowledge does he has? Round was a coach and first team manager assistant for many years and not running the  club. Wyness is a CEO (I would prefer him to have more knowledge about business than football) and been a part of football for many years.
I would say that your boss was mugged off and is no longer in football because he wasn't good enough and would make the wrong assumptions. I read Simon Jordan's book and he makes it look like he was the saviour of Palace and it wasn't his fault but others, but the fact is that he didn't have a clue what he was doing and all of the decisions ultimately were bad ones.

How on earth can you possibly deduce that from what he has said about his boss?

There are plenty of reasons people do not work in football any more that don't involve being incompetent.

[Canadian Villa]

My new boss at work happens to be a former pro footballer and a short term contracts director of football.  Really clued up and knows lots of people.  Gave me a story about his club hosting the pre-match meal for the Villa Directors.  Steve Round took his son, Wyness took a mate along with him,  my boss felt that they were not professional enough for such a big club. He came away thinking that there is absolutely zero football knowledge on the Villa Board.  He described Steve Round is a frustrated coach and lacks depth of knowledge in how to run a whole football club. My boss once interviewed Bruce for a job and describes him as a serial survivor but needs money, lacks personality.  He feels that Villa are easy to mug off due to the lack of nous on the Board. I agree with him.

I appreciate you trying to share some wisdom here, and you are passing on the message that you received, but you always have to read between the lines.
It isn't a big deal if Round and Wyness brings other people along. What did your boss think that they should have done? I saw a Wigan director last year with his kid at VP. They were having a good day out. If business is to be conducted then I don't that they would bring a kid along.
Your boss is no longer in football. Why is that? Perhaps he is a failed football director and he opinion on others doesn't carry a lot of weight. What football knowledge does he has? Round was a coach and first team manager assistant for many years and not running the  club. Wyness is a CEO (I would prefer him to have more knowledge about business than football) and been a part of football for many years.
I would say that your boss was mugged off and is no longer in football because he wasn't good enough and would make the wrong assumptions. I read Simon Jordan's book and he makes it look like he was the saviour of Palace and it wasn't his fault but others, but the fact is that he didn't have a clue what he was doing and all of the decisions ultimately were bad ones.

How on earth can you possibly deduce that from what he has said about his boss?

There are plenty of reasons people do not work in football any more that don't involve being incompetent.

The boss is making assumptions that Villa are being mugged off yet he isn't in football anymore. Yes of course it doesn't mean that he is incompetent, however we don't know either way. I'm making my own assumptions just like he was

[Steve67]

Mugged off by the likes of Steve Bruce because they got all starry eyed. Due to a general lack of football knowledge.
To be fair, the game was towards the end of the season and they were demob happy, so taking a mate might be ok.  Difficult to get a message across on a message board without writing a book!

He is still in football by the way, but does other things too.

[Ads]

Why wouldn't Round or Wyness, people who have been in the game for decades, lack "knowledge". How does one devine this over ham hock, roast beef and a slightly frozen raspberry cheese cake?

[Canadian Villa]

Mugged off by the likes of Steve Bruce because they got all starry eyed. Due to a general lack of football knowledge.
To be fair, the game was towards the end of the season and they were demob happy, so taking a mate might be ok.  Difficult to get a message across on a message board without writing a book!

He is still in football by the way, but does other things too.

Did he vote on the Bruce out thread??

[pauliewalnuts]

My new boss at work happens to be a former pro footballer and a short term contracts director of football.  Really clued up and knows lots of people.  Gave me a story about his club hosting the pre-match meal for the Villa Directors.  Steve Round took his son, Wyness took a mate along with him,  my boss felt that they were not professional enough for such a big club. He came away thinking that there is absolutely zero football knowledge on the Villa Board.  He described Steve Round is a frustrated coach and lacks depth of knowledge in how to run a whole football club. My boss once interviewed Bruce for a job and describes him as a serial survivor but needs money, lacks personality.  He feels that Villa are easy to mug off due to the lack of nous on the Board. I agree with him.

I appreciate you trying to share some wisdom here, and you are passing on the message that you received, but you always have to read between the lines.
It isn't a big deal if Round and Wyness brings other people along. What did your boss think that they should have done? I saw a Wigan director last year with his kid at VP. They were having a good day out. If business is to be conducted then I don't that they would bring a kid along.
Your boss is no longer in football. Why is that? Perhaps he is a failed football director and he opinion on others doesn't carry a lot of weight. What football knowledge does he has? Round was a coach and first team manager assistant for many years and not running the  club. Wyness is a CEO (I would prefer him to have more knowledge about business than football) and been a part of football for many years.
I would say that your boss was mugged off and is no longer in football because he wasn't good enough and would make the wrong assumptions. I read Simon Jordan's book and he makes it look like he was the saviour of Palace and it wasn't his fault but others, but the fact is that he didn't have a clue what he was doing and all of the decisions ultimately were bad ones.

How on earth can you possibly deduce that from what he has said about his boss?

There are plenty of reasons people do not work in football any more that don't involve being incompetent.

The boss is making assumptions that Villa are being mugged off yet he isn't in football anymore. Yes of course it doesn't mean that he is incompetent, however we don't know either way. I'm making my own assumptions just like he was

Of course it doesn't mean he's incompetent, but that's exactly what you've just suggested.

Maybe he's not in football any more because he got poached to run the PE department at Hogwarts? Maybe he's not in football any more because he woke up one day and he'd turned into a minotaur? Maybe he's undergoing gender re-assignment? Maybe he's now President of the United States?

All as valid as your totally unfounded suggestion it's because he was 'incompetent'.

Don't get me wrong, I couldn't give a toss either way what his boss said or whether it's true, I just find your logic baffling.

[Canadian Villa]

My new boss at work happens to be a former pro footballer and a short term contracts director of football.  Really clued up and knows lots of people.  Gave me a story about his club hosting the pre-match meal for the Villa Directors.  Steve Round took his son, Wyness took a mate along with him,  my boss felt that they were not professional enough for such a big club. He came away thinking that there is absolutely zero football knowledge on the Villa Board.  He described Steve Round is a frustrated coach and lacks depth of knowledge in how to run a whole football club. My boss once interviewed Bruce for a job and describes him as a serial survivor but needs money, lacks personality.  He feels that Villa are easy to mug off due to the lack of nous on the Board. I agree with him.

I appreciate you trying to share some wisdom here, and you are passing on the message that you received, but you always have to read between the lines.
It isn't a big deal if Round and Wyness brings other people along. What did your boss think that they should have done? I saw a Wigan director last year with his kid at VP. They were having a good day out. If business is to be conducted then I don't that they would bring a kid along.
Your boss is no longer in football. Why is that? Perhaps he is a failed football director and he opinion on others doesn't carry a lot of weight. What football knowledge does he has? Round was a coach and first team manager assistant for many years and not running the  club. Wyness is a CEO (I would prefer him to have more knowledge about business than football) and been a part of football for many years.
I would say that your boss was mugged off and is no longer in football because he wasn't good enough and would make the wrong assumptions. I read Simon Jordan's book and he makes it look like he was the saviour of Palace and it wasn't his fault but others, but the fact is that he didn't have a clue what he was doing and all of the decisions ultimately were bad ones.

How on earth can you possibly deduce that from what he has said about his boss?

There are plenty of reasons people do not work in football any more that don't involve being incompetent.

The boss is making assumptions that Villa are being mugged off yet he isn't in football anymore. Yes of course it doesn't mean that he is incompetent, however we don't know either way. I'm making my own assumptions just like he was

Of course it doesn't mean he's incompetent, but that's exactly what you've just suggested.

Maybe he's not in football any more because he got poached to run the PE department at Hogwarts? Maybe he's not in football any more because he woke up one day and he'd turned into a minotaur? Maybe he's undergoing gender re-assignment? Maybe he's now President of the United States?

All as valid as your totally unfounded suggestion it's because he was 'incompetent'.

Don't get me wrong, I couldn't give a toss either way what his boss said or whether it's true, I just find your logic baffling.

my logic is that we are all making assumptions here, including my own. It's an unfounded suggestion as you said.